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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2011 0:47:59 GMT 1
Am I not right in thinking the Wakeman School is under review, not because of cost cutting as such but because it does not have many pupils?
Isn't next year's intake currently something like 16?
With the current year 7 not breaking 60 in total?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 17, 2011 1:20:27 GMT 1
Slightly off topic - I advise anyone to see the film Inside Job which is going to be released in the UK this weekend. That's if you can find a cinema that will screen it.
Public debt as percentage of GDP in 1997 42.5% and 36.5% just before the crash and the subsequent depression. The problem is that you cannot put an end to boom and boost where you have banks creating money as debt. Since 1844 they haven't been able to print notes or mint coins, but they can create deposits in return for the promise to pay.
The origins of the term "end of boom and bust" rest with Eddie George. He'd seen enough of boom and bust (and not necessarily in that order) under Margaret Thatcher.
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Post by bananafeet on Feb 17, 2011 9:01:54 GMT 1
The PCT will almost certainly be tied in to a huge contract for provision of hundreds of NVQs for any health provider within the midlands.
I take it you tendered for this.................................................
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Post by southshropblue on Feb 17, 2011 9:14:41 GMT 1
Does the reference library include the Shropshire archive anyone know?
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Post by southshropblue on Feb 17, 2011 9:17:56 GMT 1
Slightly off topic - I advise anyone to see the film Inside Job which is going to be released in the UK this weekend. That's if you can find a cinema that will screen it. Public debt as percentage of GDP in 1997 42.5% and 36.5% just before the crash and the subsequent depression. The problem is that you cannot put an end to boom and boost where you have banks creating money as debt. Since 1844 they haven't been able to print notes or mint coins, but they can create deposits in return for the promise to pay. The origins of the term "end of boom and bust" rest with Eddie George. He'd seen enough of boom and bust (and not necessarily in that order) under Margaret Thatcher. not sure of the origins of the term Sean but the people who made the phrase popular ,who believed it and preached it year after year were Mr Brown and Mr Balls I think they were responsible for regulating the banks over the last deacde or so
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Post by jamo on Feb 17, 2011 9:20:33 GMT 1
Am I not right in thinking the Wakeman School is under review, not because of cost cutting as such but because it does not have many pupils? Isn't next year's intake currently something like 16? With the current year 7 not breaking 60 in total? You are correct. There is presently a drop in numbers at the Wakeman - there are approxiamtely 1000 places available at all senior schools in the town, but the numbers in the near future see quite a rise.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Feb 17, 2011 9:33:21 GMT 1
Am I not right in thinking the Wakeman School is under review, not because of cost cutting as such but because it does not have many pupils? Isn't next year's intake currently something like 16? With the current year 7 not breaking 60 in total? You are correct. There is presently a drop in numbers at the Wakeman - there are approxiamtely 1000 places available at all senior schools in the town, but the numbers in the near future see quite a rise. You are spot on Jamo,i was speaking with someone from the youth service last week on this subject.There seems to very few kids between the ages of 9-14(in Shrewsbury) but 9 and under there seems to be quite a jump in numbers.
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Feb 17, 2011 12:23:35 GMT 1
Are you marching all the way from the Shirehall to the square or just as far as the Nags Head
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Post by stfcfan87 on Feb 17, 2011 12:24:42 GMT 1
Not too surprising re the population
As a youngish person myself (33), house prices around Shrewsbury are pretty high, but wages are not in comparison with other places. As a single person earning a wage of over £27k and no debts, I would still find it very hard to purchase a decent sized house around here and that's without taking into account the unstability of the economy / jobs.
Based on finances alone, having children just isn't financially practical!
Additionally point, you'll notice i said house - I (and I'm sure I'm not alone) do not want to buy a small 'luxury' overpriced appartment when it comes to buying a property - but it seems any developers are absolutely obsessed with this idea, and the council keep granting permission.
The other worrying thing regarding population is that I can see the young population and the working age population remaining pretty similar to current levels, but the 65+ population (i.e. retired) massively increasing - I've seen projections that it will go from 60k in 2008 to 90k just 15 years later. That can't be good for the local economy - for starters its likely that there will be increased health needs - but they'll be a lack of people to support it.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 17, 2011 15:14:54 GMT 1
Let's not get sidetracked withs some obscure debate on training providers, I can't find stepping stone (except for one that appears to train people for child and nursery care) on the web and Akona appears to be security training for sporting events, to pick the two names I've had a butchers at. Let's stick to the purpose of this march: To protest against a government paying for the cost of an economic crisis triggered by the financial sector with cuts to public sector services and jobs - while it continues to serve the interests of its City paymasters. The damaging consequences of this austerity drive are already being felt with rising unemployment and record youth unemployment. Enough is enough. Get out and support the march - If you live in the Shrewsbury area there's no excuse for not getting to Shirehall for 11.00! I have an excuse Sir, its called WORKING, no doubt the Shirehall will be buzzing inside with all the workers doing theirs.............NOT
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 17, 2011 15:19:37 GMT 1
Am I not right in thinking the Wakeman School is under review, not because of cost cutting as such but because it does not have many pupils? Isn't next year's intake currently something like 16? With the current year 7 not breaking 60 in total? A report to cabinet says the Wakeman has 406 pupils on roll in a building with 675 places. Pupil numbers, it is claimed, are “reducing rapidly” year on year as larger groups leave and are replaced by smaller intakes.
Meole Brace School, says the report, has 997 pupils in a building with 1,215 places.
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Feb 17, 2011 15:39:42 GMT 1
Let's not get sidetracked withs some obscure debate on training providers, I can't find stepping stone (except for one that appears to train people for child and nursery care) on the web and Akona appears to be security training for sporting events, to pick the two names I've had a butchers at. Let's stick to the purpose of this march: To protest against a government paying for the cost of an economic crisis triggered by the financial sector with cuts to public sector services and jobs - while it continues to serve the interests of its City paymasters. The damaging consequences of this austerity drive are already being felt with rising unemployment and record youth unemployment. Enough is enough. Get out and support the march - If you live in the Shrewsbury area there's no excuse for not getting to Shirehall for 11.00! I have an excuse Sir, its called WORKING, no doubt the Shirehall will be buzzing inside with all the workers doing theirs.............NOT Well you should take a leaf out of the Shirehall workers book then and be a bit more Robinson Crusoe..................... (Get your work done by Friday)
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 17, 2011 15:57:03 GMT 1
I have an excuse Sir, its called WORKING, no doubt the Shirehall will be buzzing inside with all the workers doing theirs.............NOT Well you should take a leaf out of the Shirehall workers book then and be a bit more Robinson Crusoe..................... (Get your work done by Friday) And of course if I got my hours right Mon -Thu , I could knock off at lunchtime on Friday, thats not a job its a holiday
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Post by WindsorShrew on Feb 17, 2011 19:55:40 GMT 1
Is the wonderful Ricky Tomlinson and his buddies coming down for this one ......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 21:04:35 GMT 1
Is the wonderful Ricky Tomlinson and his buddies coming down for this one ...... Anythin to save a job, regardless weather its value for money my friend!!
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Post by jamo on Feb 17, 2011 21:20:15 GMT 1
Is the wonderful Ricky Tomlinson and his buddies coming down for this one ...... Not that i'm aware of..just a couple of thousand Salopians who care more than some others do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 21:34:32 GMT 1
Let's not get sidetracked withs some obscure debate on training providers, I can't find stepping stone (except for one that appears to train people for child and nursery care) on the web and Akona appears to be security training for sporting events, to pick the two names I've had a butchers at. Let's stick to the purpose of this march: To protest against a government paying for the cost of an economic crisis triggered by the financial sector with cuts to public sector services and jobs - while it continues to serve the interests of its City paymasters. The damaging consequences of this austerity drive are already being felt with rising unemployment and record youth unemployment. Enough is enough. Get out and support the march - If you live in the Shrewsbury area there's no excuse for not getting to Shirehall for 11.00! I have an excuse Sir, its called WORKING, no doubt the Shirehall will be buzzing inside with all the workers doing theirs.............NOT What do you base that view on Minor?
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Post by WindsorShrew on Feb 17, 2011 21:45:00 GMT 1
Not that i'm aware of..just a couple of thousand Salopians who care more than some others do. Absolute tosh Jamo, to think people don't care about cuts in services because they are not marching is blinkered at best. I hope that this will be one for the people of Shropshire to express their concerns and remains a non political march without the red banner of oppression being paraded around our fine town.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Feb 17, 2011 22:01:27 GMT 1
Not that i'm aware of..just a couple of thousand Salopians who care more than some others do. our fine town. Am i missing something or do you live in Telford?
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Post by shrewsace on Feb 17, 2011 23:16:08 GMT 1
Let's not get sidetracked withs some obscure debate on training providers, I can't find stepping stone (except for one that appears to train people for child and nursery care) on the web and Akona appears to be security training for sporting events, to pick the two names I've had a butchers at. Let's stick to the purpose of this march: To protest against a government paying for the cost of an economic crisis triggered by the financial sector with cuts to public sector services and jobs - while it continues to serve the interests of its City paymasters. The damaging consequences of this austerity drive are already being felt with rising unemployment and record youth unemployment. Enough is enough. Get out and support the march - If you live in the Shrewsbury area there's no excuse for not getting to Shirehall for 11.00! I have an excuse Sir, its called WORKING, no doubt the Shirehall will be buzzing inside with all the workers doing theirs.............NOT OK then Minor, consider yourself EXCUSED. I know you'll be there in spirit anyway, comrade.
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Post by oranjemob on Feb 18, 2011 10:52:08 GMT 1
My wife works for the PCT in Telford and has been told she must do a customer care NVQ which is great, but the PCT can only use TCAT as a training provider. I don't believe I'm going to write this I agree with Downie I come across far too many situations where funded training and business support is only available through specified deliverers. Often at a higher cosr (to the tax payer) and equally often (IMHO) to a lesser standard. Regarding the cuts in general; it is becoming increasingly apparent - U-turn, after U-turn: Legal challenges etc - that the Government has rushed headlong into this with undue haste and driven by idealogical fanatisism. They have not taken the time to consider the best, and least harmful solutions, or even the rule of law. The end of this regime has already started.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2011 10:56:08 GMT 1
My wife works for the PCT in Telford and has been told she must do a customer care NVQ which is great, but the PCT can only use TCAT as a training provider. I don't believe I'm going to write this I agree with Downie I come across far too many situations where funded training and business support is only available through specified deliverers. Often at a higher cosr (to the tax payer) and equally often (IMHO) to a lesser standard. Regarding the cuts in general; it is becoming increasingly apparent - U-turn, after U-turn: Legal challenges etc - that the Government has rushed headlong into this with undue haste and driven by idealogical fanatisism. They have not taken the time to consider the best, and least harmful solutions, or even the rule of law. The end of this regime has already started. god, gonna phone in sick!!
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Post by grinfish on Feb 19, 2011 5:00:49 GMT 1
The state finances need to be brought into order, but we also need to keep people in work. So, trim the fat, melt it down, and let everyone have a bit of dripping on their bread, rather than some having none, and others having a whole tub of lard to themselves. Paycuts for anyone in state employment to a maximum ceiling of £10/hour. A single unexcessive state employee pension scheme with no enhanced contributions based on seniority/position (i.e. "Gold-plated"). Opt-out permitting your contributions to go into a private pension of your choice should you wish. Unions to be restricted in their activities to reinforcement of employment law and genuine safety cases where not seen to be served, not trying to bully through payrises or improved terms on those in the contracts of employment wilfully signed (basically, time to put Bob Crow into retirement). If you don't think you get enough money, tough - everyone else is managing. PFI to be scrapped as the dodgy accounting practice it's been shown to be. Any contracts handed out to private firms to be priced comparatively to the costs of using state employees. Any task that is continuous should be provided from state resources, not farmed out at a premium. Trim the paperwork for, well, just about everything. If anyone can provide a SENSIBLE answer as to why HMRC need YOU to send them details of your previous year's income, rather than check their own record of the last year's P60 THEY SENT YOU, I'd be interested to know. Oh, and the TV License fee to be increased to whatever level is required to allow the BBC to buy the rights to all England's international cricket matches - or just sack Chris Moyles and Graham Norton, which should even out Oh, and hello everyone. As you can tell, not much to do when you're still awake at 4am >.<
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