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Post by shrew4life on Feb 12, 2011 18:10:26 GMT 1
Which moron at the club is making the decision to close the west stand gate when the away team have a following of a mini bus. Against Burton the gate was closed and it was announced that it would be open in 5 minutes, it took 10 minutes instead. When the steward eventually opened up we asked him why it was closed and he said it was because of trouble against Chesterfield! But we're playing Burton???
I imagine the gate was closed today because of the huge hooligan element Stevenage have....
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 12, 2011 18:21:11 GMT 1
The gate was shut because they can and know it annoys the fans! Can't think of any other reason
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Post by Pilch on Feb 12, 2011 19:02:10 GMT 1
I walked around to the power bar, ordered drinks and sat here for 10 mins waiting for a couple of mates behind the gate Apparently the steward in blue got a strop on due to people bizarrely moaning about the gate being closed, he stormed off and left them waiting
Totally pathetic, the stewards obviously bored at having a civilised crowd to deal with decided to cause chaos all on their own
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Post by nicko on Feb 12, 2011 19:13:24 GMT 1
Apparently the steward in blue got a strop on due to people bizarrely moaning about the gate being closed, he stormed off and left them waiting Yep; pretty much how I saw it. He came out the ground got a bit of jeering and good natured banter, stormed off and closed the exits from inside the ground. Don't know what happened after that as we walked off the long way round.
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 12, 2011 19:14:44 GMT 1
Jobsworths 1 Fans 0
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Post by abalshrew on Feb 12, 2011 19:33:09 GMT 1
Absolute nonsense the Pontins blue coat, needs a kick up the a*#es. Humourles little 'Richard head'.........
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 12, 2011 20:31:31 GMT 1
Hey we all know the steward - Ron I think- is a good guy and is as frustrated as us having to follow orders from the ****s in the control room and then getting abuse from frustrated fans...... Pathetic but blame the decision makers not the guy following orders
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 20:35:05 GMT 1
I can understand why it's annoying at a game like today's when there's absolutely no chance of any organised trouble.
However, is it really that big a deal?
Why not just spend two minutes walking round the ground rather than 10 waiting behind the gate?
On the one occasion the gate is left open and it all does kick off unexpectedly, you can bet that we'll never hear the end of it, so I can kind of understand the club erring on the side of caution on the issue.
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Post by evster69 on Feb 12, 2011 20:51:55 GMT 1
Hey we all know the steward - Ron I think- is a good guy and is as frustrated as us having to follow orders from the ****s in the control room and then getting abuse from frustrated fans...... Pathetic but blame the decision makers not the guy following orders That's what they said about the Nazi stormtroopers! Make of that what you will.
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Post by lexo on Feb 12, 2011 22:34:41 GMT 1
all of this nonsense could have been solved if STFC had at the very start of the NM development, if STFC had put the away fans at the other end, gates / fences could then be open / shut to keep the away fans locked in and out of trouble. this would allow the home fans out quickly and not have to pass the away fans.
simples !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2011 22:51:29 GMT 1
Which moron at the club is making the decision to close the west stand gate when the away team have a following of a mini bus. Against Burton the gate was closed and it was announced that it would be open in 5 minutes, it took 10 minutes instead. When the steward eventually opened up we asked him why it was closed and he said it was because of trouble against Chesterfield! But we're playing Burton??? I imagine the gate was closed today because of the huge hooligan element Stevenage have.... Strange, but we asked why the gate was being closed after todays game, the answer, because of Chesterfield. W.T.F. I think they are pre-programmed to answer any question regarding the gate with ...Chesterfield.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 13, 2011 1:01:27 GMT 1
I can understand why it's annoying at a game like today's when there's absolutely no chance of any organised trouble. However, is it really that big a deal? Why not just spend two minutes walking round the ground rather than 10 waiting behind the gate? On the one occasion the gate is left open and it all does kick off unexpectedly, you can bet that we'll never hear the end of it, so I can kind of understand the club erring on the side of caution on the issue. But being able to walk around contradicts the whole farce of locking the gate I walked around and beat the gate by 10 mins The stevenage fans had already gone by the time I got there Pathetic pathetic pathetic
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Post by jamo on Feb 13, 2011 9:48:02 GMT 1
Hey we all know the steward - Ron I think- is a good guy and is as frustrated as us having to follow orders from the ****s in the control room and then getting abuse from frustrated fans...... Pathetic but blame the decision makers not the guy following orders That may well be your perception but I think it a liittle amiss to suggest that ` we all know he's a good guy`. My perception is that he comes across as a power crazed, attention seeking jobsworth who possess little or no people skills whose only desire it appears is to strut along the front of the stand posing. We have some excellent stewards at the ground but in my experience the `stand managers` i.e the bluecoats are nearly all the less suiteed for the extra responsibilties their roles require.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 13, 2011 10:30:30 GMT 1
He came into the power bar after the game I wish I had been serving at the bar, I'd have made him either wait 10 minutes or walk around the ground first ;-)
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Post by WindsorShrew on Feb 13, 2011 10:34:10 GMT 1
if STFC had put the away fans at the other end, gates / fences could then be open / shut to keep the away fans locked in and out of trouble. this would allow the home fans out quickly and not have to pass the away fans. simples ! That would have lead to even more mixing of fans as the away fans would pour through the main car park. I think there should be a manned footgate from behind the Power League bar onto the path. Failing that those drunkards who frequent the Power League will have to shut up and walk.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Feb 13, 2011 10:56:07 GMT 1
Do the stewards have to do what Steve Gittens says or do they just take it upon themselves to close the gate
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 13, 2011 12:03:47 GMT 1
Hey we all know the steward - Ron I think- is a good guy and is as frustrated as us having to follow orders from the ****s in the control room and then getting abuse from frustrated fans...... Pathetic but blame the decision makers not the guy following orders That may well be your perception but I think it a little amiss to suggest that ` we all know he's a good guy`. My perception is that he comes across as a power crazed, attention seeking jobs worth who possess little or no people skills whose only desire it appears is to strut along the front of the stand posing. We have some excellent stewards at the ground but in my experience the `stand managers` i.e the bluecoats are nearly all the less suiteed for the extra responsibilties their roles require. I don't know him personally but have had experience of him for 10 to 15 years as he was the steward in front of the buffet an GM..... On all occasions he treated fans in a polite and friendly manner as he does now but he is the head steward and there are plenty of idiots he has to control and (as you say) my opinion is he is not a jobs worth and is a good guy and deserves better treatment from us - as you say my opinion
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Post by Dancin on Feb 13, 2011 12:49:33 GMT 1
if STFC had put the away fans at the other end, gates / fences could then be open / shut to keep the away fans locked in and out of trouble. this would allow the home fans out quickly and not have to pass the away fans. simples ! Failing that those drunkards who frequent the Power League will have to shut up and walk. I think you will find that your comment above is totally incorrect in the majority of cases.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 13, 2011 13:58:08 GMT 1
if STFC had put the away fans at the other end, gates / fences could then be open / shut to keep the away fans locked in and out of trouble. this would allow the home fans out quickly and not have to pass the away fans. simples ! That would have lead to even more mixing of fans as the away fans would pour through the main car park. I think there should be a manned footgate from behind the Power League bar onto the path. Failing that those drunkards who frequent the Power League will have to shut up and walk. The solution is simple So simple Fence from south corner / west corner to footpath fence Bit like the current one only at the other end Fence from south corner/east corner. To main gate Main gate split into 2 entrances , home and away The only place fans can mingle is off Stfc premises Just for good measure I'd throw in another main exit for home fans by the power bar That's an exit and not an entrance
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Post by onthetrain92 on Feb 13, 2011 14:45:17 GMT 1
As said before a swift swap over with away fans being put in 18 and 19 and those in 17 18 and 19 put in the North Stand is a great solution to the problem. Would give the team 2 home stands to attack. Greater noise within the stadium and yet the away fans are still close by for the banter. Just imagine a full stand chanting and singing instead of a couple of blocks stuck in one corner, makes sense to me. Easy access before and after to the power league bar, easy exit via the main gates. All it needs is a new gate to the footpath and steel door segration down the middle of the West Stand similar to what they have at both southampton and stoke. If we are to become a bigger club we gotta think and act like one.
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Post by leoshrew67 on Feb 13, 2011 14:52:30 GMT 1
That may well be your perception but I think it a little amiss to suggest that ` we all know he's a good guy`. My perception is that he comes across as a power crazed, attention seeking jobs worth who possess little or no people skills whose only desire it appears is to strut along the front of the stand posing. We have some excellent stewards at the ground but in my experience the `stand managers` i.e the bluecoats are nearly all the less suiteed for the extra responsibilties their roles require. I don't know him personally but have had experience of him for 10 to 15 years as he was the steward in front of the buffet an GM..... On all occasions he treated fans in a polite and friendly manner as he does now but he is the head steward and there are plenty of idiots he has to control and (as you say) my opinion is he is not a jobs worth and is a good guy and deserves better treatment from us - as you say my opinion Just to clear up a couple of things Ron is not the head steward he's only the stand manger for the west stand if i'm right the head steward is the chap down by the dug outs . Secondly in reply to heavenly YES we do have to do what Steve Gittens ask's us to do afterall he is the SAFETY OFFICER for STFC who's main priority is the safety and well being of all who attend the G M on a match day beit players, staff and supporters . Although I do admit yesterday was a farce and should have been handled alot better i'm sure lesson's have been learned and will be addressed for future games
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 13, 2011 15:07:12 GMT 1
OK he's the head steward in the west stand which the club choose to call 'The Stand Manager' Agree with Leoshrew except the decision maker gets it wrong too often..... Gate closed when there's no trouble, open too early on occasions like Chesterfield.... and also appears in my humble opinion to have a vendetta against certain elements in West stand and use the gate to show his authority.... If he's responsible for safety its also taken him too long to get a barrier erected between West and North stand and on occasion eg last Hereford game his decision not to pay for a police presence for the game had to be wrong.... Oh and also heard yesterday that he's already made the decision to keep the gate closed for all games this season but only time will tell In his defence I don't know how long he's been in this position?
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Post by Pilch on Feb 13, 2011 15:33:56 GMT 1
It was noted yesterday that amongst those waiting, 5 were on crutches Let's hope they didn't have a bus to catch
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Post by Dancin on Feb 13, 2011 15:58:55 GMT 1
Normally our bus, A488 Bus, is one of the first to leave the ground but due to the decision to leave the gate shut we were one of the last.
This was due to some of our more elderly passengers having to walk all the way around the ground. Normally they wait for it to open so they don't have to walk as far.
It doesn't bother me that our bus was delayed, what does is keeping a gate closed when with the number Steveange brought could of easily been managed by our stewards.
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Post by eclipsechaser on Feb 13, 2011 17:50:25 GMT 1
This is for Ronnie one of the chief stewards who is responsible for locking and unlocking the gate .
The power is going to your head ! Your common sense has been lost !
Get your act together because the abuse will get worse and deservedly so , and so will the amount of pressure and complaints about you and the gate closure .
Sort it out !
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Post by WindsorShrew on Feb 13, 2011 18:01:24 GMT 1
It was noted yesterday that amongst those waiting, 5 were on crutches Let's hope they didn't have a bus to catch You've done it now, 5 people carrying offensive weapons ! Line of Police plus gate next game methinks...
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Post by WindsorShrew on Feb 13, 2011 18:03:57 GMT 1
Get your act together because the abuse will get worse and deservedly so , Disagree with this statement, dialogue through the correct channels yes - abuse no.
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Post by Dan F on Feb 13, 2011 18:04:29 GMT 1
Why is this an "Announcement"? I'm sure it'll still make it to the Chairman's desk regardless
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Post by eclipsechaser on Feb 13, 2011 18:17:59 GMT 1
Get your act together because the abuse will get worse and deservedly so , Disagree with this statement, dialogue through the correct channels yes - abuse no. Abuse , in the sense of emphatically making my feelings known to him by verbally by pointing out the illogical and unreasonable decision that has been made in a very indignant manner . Not swearing or making offensive gestures . Hope that makes it clearer .
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Post by eclipsechaser on Feb 13, 2011 18:20:45 GMT 1
And i do hope this sort of thread makes it to Roland and to his muppet of a H & S employee . Why does our club continually make stupid , illogical and unreasonable decisions when the obvious and correct decisions are staring them point blank in the face ?
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