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Post by markglasgow on Feb 12, 2011 16:06:47 GMT 1
Turner reckons that we've spent just over £30k on transfers during the Jan window (inc Wright & Wroe moves). He also reckons we almost broke even when you include the 'fee' received for Hakan Duyan from Gaziantepspor. Looks like the 'kitchen sink' didn't cost so much afterall! news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/shrewsbury/9394470.stm
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 12, 2011 18:33:42 GMT 1
It kind of highlights what a bitter pillock Paul Simpson is.
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Post by markglasgow on Feb 12, 2011 18:48:28 GMT 1
The lad Craig Reid who played up top for Stevenage today is said to have cost £150,000. GT has just confirmed that Wroe's transfer fee was only £10k. Worth that for the 3pts he's given us today.
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Post by shrewder on Feb 12, 2011 19:30:17 GMT 1
Town recieved £44,000 for Duyan
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Feb 12, 2011 19:33:01 GMT 1
Town recieved £44,000 for Duyan Which would, if what I hear is true, mean that Wroe had a price tag of about 55k, the rumour being that Duyans sale paid for Wroe - costing the club about 10k which is what GT alludes to.
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 12, 2011 19:34:58 GMT 1
Has to be the best deal ever if we got that for Duyan.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2011 19:59:20 GMT 1
I thought the comments from Simpson were made at the Bury game, before the end of the transfer window, before the comings and goings, before we had spent that 30 grand? So that 30 grand was obviously not the kitchen sink that Simpson were referring to. Unless he is some kind of soothsayer...which I suspect he isnt. Appreciate he isnt popular with some but why try and have a pop at the chap for that...
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 20:27:28 GMT 1
I thought the comments from Simpson were made at the Bury game, before the end of the transfer window, before the comings and goings, before we had spent that 30 grand? So that 30 grand was obviously not the kitchen sink that Simpson were referring to. Unless he is some kind of soothsayer...which I suspect he isnt. Appreciate he isnt popular with some but why try and have a pop at the chap for that... To be fair, we'd have been slightly further in the red for January (down about the 25k Wright is rumoured to have cost) when he made those comments. It was, nevertheless, a snide and inaccurate remark, given that he was backed to the hilt and given the amount of money he blew (particularly wages wise) on complete s**te. The implication seemed to be that Turner had been better backed in the transfer market than he had, which is patently b******s.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 12, 2011 20:30:32 GMT 1
I thought the comments from Simpson were made at the Bury game, before the end of the transfer window, before the comings and goings, before we had spent that 30 grand? So that 30 grand was obviously not the kitchen sink that Simpson were referring to. Unless he is some kind of soothsayer...which I suspect he isnt. Appreciate he isnt popular with some but why try and have a pop at the chap for that... To be fair, we'd have been slightly further in the red for January (down about the 25k Wright is rumoured to have cost) when he made those comments. It was, nevertheless, a snide and inaccurate remark, given that he was backed to the hilt and given the amount of money he blew (particularly wages wise) on complete s**te. The implication seemed to be that Turner had been better backed in the transfer market than he had, which is patently rubbish. Can't really disagree with a single word of that.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 12, 2011 20:33:48 GMT 1
odd move for Duyan. Still, take the money. Well done everyone, on a good transfer window!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2011 20:42:31 GMT 1
£45k for a third choice keeper who's never made a first team appearance? Grest result that!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2011 20:49:17 GMT 1
I thought the comments from Simpson were made at the Bury game, before the end of the transfer window, before the comings and goings, before we had spent that 30 grand? So that 30 grand was obviously not the kitchen sink that Simpson were referring to. Unless he is some kind of soothsayer...which I suspect he isnt. Appreciate he isnt popular with some but why try and have a pop at the chap for that... To be fair, we'd have been slightly further in the red for January (down about the 25k Wright is rumoured to have cost) when he made those comments. It was, nevertheless, a snide and inaccurate remark, given that he was backed to the hilt and given the amount of money he blew (particularly wages wise) on complete s**te. The implication seemed to be that Turner had been better backed in the transfer market than he had, which is patently rubbish. So he were backed to the hilt? As in money, as in we spent a bit, as in the 'kitchen sink'... Implication that Turner had been backed more in the transfer market? How you got that from Simpson's turn on Sky I'll never know. Simpson can only comment on the money that were given to him. That 30 grand were spent after those comments were made...
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 12, 2011 20:51:52 GMT 1
To be fair, we'd have been slightly further in the red for January (down about the 25k Wright is rumoured to have cost) when he made those comments. It was, nevertheless, a snide and inaccurate remark, given that he was backed to the hilt and given the amount of money he blew (particularly wages wise) on complete s**te. The implication seemed to be that Turner had been better backed in the transfer market than he had, which is patently rubbish. So he were backed to the hilt? As in money, as in we spent a bit, as in the 'kitchen sink'... Implication that Turner had been backed more in the transfer market? How you got that from Simpson's turn on Sky I'll never know. [glow=red,2,300]Simpson can only comment on the money that were given to him.[/glow] That 30 grand were spent after those comments were made... But instead, he chose to chat **** about what how Turner has been backed with heavy resources. You didn't have to be an expert to read between the lines to what he was implying.
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 12, 2011 20:55:45 GMT 1
To be fair, we'd have been slightly further in the red for January (down about the 25k Wright is rumoured to have cost) when he made those comments. It was, nevertheless, a snide and inaccurate remark, given that he was backed to the hilt and given the amount of money he blew (particularly wages wise) on complete s**te. The implication seemed to be that Turner had been better backed in the transfer market than he had, which is patently rubbish. So he were backed to the hilt? As in money, as in we spent a bit, as in the 'kitchen sink'... Implication that Turner had been backed more in the transfer market? How you got that from Simpson's turn on Sky I'll never know. Simpson can only comment on the money that were given to him. That 30 grand were spent after those comments were made... Simmo had a far bigger budget than GT and blew it. Poor bitter manager talking nonsense. SHOCK.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2011 20:59:10 GMT 1
So he were backed to the hilt? As in money, as in we spent a bit, as in the 'kitchen sink'... Implication that Turner had been backed more in the transfer market? How you got that from Simpson's turn on Sky I'll never know. [glow=red,2,300]Simpson can only comment on the money that were given to him.[/glow] That 30 grand were spent after those comments were made... But instead, he chose to chat **** about what how Turner has been backed with heavy resources. You didn't have to be an expert to read between the lines to what he was implying. My memory isn't how it was, I don't recall him saying anything specific about Turner being backed but rather the club have spent in recent seasons to get promoted. Which we have. Or? So what did he say specifically about Turner and getting backed with heavy resources? Or are you on about the kitchen sink remark, which was said against the club...which would have included his own time in charge... Tell us as I don't recall, I might have missed sommat...
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 21:03:04 GMT 1
To be fair, we'd have been slightly further in the red for January (down about the 25k Wright is rumoured to have cost) when he made those comments. It was, nevertheless, a snide and inaccurate remark, given that he was backed to the hilt and given the amount of money he blew (particularly wages wise) on complete s**te. The implication seemed to be that Turner had been better backed in the transfer market than he had, which is patently rubbish. So he were backed to the hilt? As in money, as in we spent a bit, as in the 'kitchen sink'... Implication that Turner had been backed more in the transfer market? How you got that from Simpson's turn on Sky I'll never know. Simpson can only comment on the money that were given to him. That 30 grand were spent after those comments were made... The comment I'm going on is.... ....which to me obviously implies that our spending 'this season' has been exceptional, and therefore bigger than in previous seasons. Like I said, you're right that the 30k was spent later and that - at the time the comments were made - we were further in the red for January than we are now. HOWEVER, it's a self-serving attempt to re-write history for Simpson to suggest that he was not given as much transfer money to build a team. He almost certainly spent more on both them and wages than Turner has. Ainsworth probably cost a few bob as well - I heard £80,000 - so if we take that as a ball-park figure, then Turner's spent about 100k. Simpson spent £170,000 on one striker, which is more than Turner or any other Town manager ever has on a player. Other money was spent too - Elder, for example, cost several tens of thousands of pounds. He was also allowed to bin Constable - at the time our joint record signing at £100,000 - for absolute peanuts after not even giving him a proper run in the team.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2011 21:04:24 GMT 1
So he were backed to the hilt? As in money, as in we spent a bit, as in the 'kitchen sink'... Implication that Turner had been backed more in the transfer market? How you got that from Simpson's turn on Sky I'll never know. Simpson can only comment on the money that were given to him. That 30 grand were spent after those comments were made... Simmo had a far bigger budget than GT and blew it. Poor bitter manager talking nonsense. SHOCK. Yeah, that's what I mean. He had a budget, more so than Turner...which was what he may have been referring to when he spoke of the kitchen sink being thrown at promotion...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2011 21:10:01 GMT 1
So he were backed to the hilt? As in money, as in we spent a bit, as in the 'kitchen sink'... Implication that Turner had been backed more in the transfer market? How you got that from Simpson's turn on Sky I'll never know. Simpson can only comment on the money that were given to him. That 30 grand were spent after those comments were made... The comment I'm going on is.... ....which to me obviously implies that our spending 'this season' has been exceptional, and therefore bigger than in previous seasons. Like I said, you're right that the 30k was spent later and that - at the time the comments were made - we were further in the red for January than we are now. HOWEVER, it's a self-serving attempt to re-write history for Simpson to suggest that he was not given as much transfer money to build a team. He almost certainly spent more on both them and wages than Turner has. Ainsworth probably cost a few bob as well - I heard £80,000 - so if we take that as a ball-park figure, then Turner's spent about 100k. Simpson spent £170,000 on one striker, which is more than Turner or any other Town manager ever has on a player. Other money was spent too - Elder, for example, cost several tens of thousands of pounds. He was also allowed to bin Constable - at the time our joint record signing at £100,000 - for absolute peanuts after not even giving him a proper run in the team. No. He did not say we had thrown the kitchen sink at it specifically this season. If you go that from what he said you were clearly looking for it. He said we had thrown the kitchen sink at it...and I suspect since we have moved to the new stadium we have spent more than ever to get out of the 4th... By the by, if he did say this season then he clearly doesn't have a clue and thats rum. But I don't recall that...
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 21:19:17 GMT 1
Ok, well it hinges to an extent on the 'this season' then. I'm sure that's what I read as being quoted, but if I'm wrong then he's off the hook a bit.
However, if he did mean in general rather than this season, then he'd be tacitly acknowledging that he hadn't done a particularly good job over the past couple of years, which really would have been a first!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2011 21:21:24 GMT 1
However, if he did mean in general rather than this season, then he'd be tacitly acknowledging that he hadn't done a particularly good job over the past couple of years, which really would have been a first! Now that is sommat we agree on!!
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Post by Liam on Feb 12, 2011 21:42:54 GMT 1
Indeed, although personally Simpson doesn't strike me as the type to make that admission, hence my take on it. Here are GT's programme notes in reply to his Sky comments, btw: Now, it may be from Turner that I'm getting the use of 'this season' from, it's true. However, GT clearly felt that PS's comments were implying what I suggested above (and are therefore untrue). I do think it's fair to say that either a) GT's interpretation is accuate they were untrue or b) Simpson was tacitly acknowledging he hadn't done very well. Personally, I reckon option a) is a lot more likely! I try to be objective on here on the whole. However, I'm aware that when it comes to all things Simpson-related, I'm often anything but - the fact is, the man p**sed me off a lot whilst he was here, and occasionally continues to do so. What really used to grate was his ridiculous post-match comments after pathetic away performances (of which there were literally dozens). He knew that 90% of the fan-base hadn't seen it because they don't travel, and he knew that the club website and local media would give him an easy ride in reporting it sympathetically to that 90% that didn't travel - the Shroppy Star is never really going to put the boot in. As a result, he'd frequently make fanciful claims about 'battling performances' and defeats being down to individual errors (he'd sometimes name names) when in fact we were always almost terrible, rarely mustered a shot on target, and his tactics and style of play in response to this were consistenly non-existant. It's for this reason that I'm very willing to believe that he's the type of bloke who attempts to distort the truth to suit his own ends.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2011 23:00:26 GMT 1
I try to be objective on here on the whole. However, I'm aware that when it comes to all things Simpson-related, I'm often anything but - the fact is, the man p**sed me off a lot whilst he was here, and occasionally continues to do so. What really used to grate was his ridiculous post-match comments after pathetic away performances (of which there were literally dozens). He knew that 90% of the fan-base hadn't seen it because they don't travel, and he knew that the club website and local media would give him an easy ride in reporting it sympathetically to that 90% that didn't travel - the Shroppy Star is never really going to put the boot in. As a result, he'd frequently make fanciful claims about 'battling performances' and defeats being down to individual errors (he'd sometimes name names) when in fact we were always almost terrible, rarely mustered a shot on target, and his tactics and style of play in response to this were consistenly non-existant. It's for this reason that I'm very willing to believe that he's the type of bloke who attempts to distort the truth to suit his own ends. Yep pretty much sums it up for me too.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 12, 2011 23:52:32 GMT 1
His comments were definitely aimed at this season, whatever the words he used.
The fact he had a higher wage bill and spent more in transfers than Turner, kind of rubbishes the statement, which is what so angered Turner.
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Post by nicko on Feb 13, 2011 8:46:38 GMT 1
The money for Duyan would have been compo right?
He was a youth team player.
Which might explain the amount.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 13, 2011 10:26:39 GMT 1
His comments were definitely aimed at this season, whatever the words he used. Definitely? You don't know that for sure, he never said this season he just said the club had thrown the kitchen sink at trying to get promotion which I took to also mean his own time in charge. If folk think it was specific to this season then as I say you had to be looking for it... He would be daft to say such a thing considering it were him that were here when we brought Holt in. And as much as I thought he were a poor manager at Town he isn't daft... I will have to just agree to disagree...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 12:03:16 GMT 1
His comments were definitely aimed at this season, whatever the words he used. Definitely? You don't know that for sure, he never said this season he just said the club had thrown the kitchen sink at trying to get promotion which I took to also mean his own time in charge. If folk think it was specific to this season then as I say you had to be looking for it... He would be daft to say such a thing considering it were him that were here when we brought Holt in. And as much as I thought he were a poor manager at Town he isn't daft... I will have to just agree to disagree... Stutty this is the thread I started closer to when the comment was made and I also remember the words "this season". blueandamber.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=71089&page=1The comment was also linked to another one which said the team had accumulated the same amount of points so far this season as his regime had last, adding and then his team went on a very good run,,,,,,,, I am not his number one fan but I am sure these statements were made to take a swipe at a board
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 13, 2011 12:15:45 GMT 1
If he did indeed say 'this season' then it is a daft thing to say considering the support he had and I stand corrected...
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Post by eclipsechaser on Feb 13, 2011 18:14:11 GMT 1
Mr. Simpson is a man who is verbally unhinged . Every time he opens his mouth another landslide of verbal diarrhea comes out . And yet it keeps on coming .
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Post by timgallon on Feb 13, 2011 18:24:55 GMT 1
I cant remember Simpsons exact words but it was saying that Town had thrown the kitchen sink at promotion this season. This raised a few eyebrows by those watching it on tv because a) it doesnt appear we have spent much and b) because Simpson was the manager who has had the most backing in transfer funds of any recent manager.
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Post by tvor on Feb 13, 2011 19:09:50 GMT 1
Just to clarify the debate about what Paul Simpson may have said or not said on Sky at the Bury match.
That part of the pre-match discussion was as follows.
David Jones (Sky)
"And you'll know as well Paul there is a huge expectancy around Shrewsbury Town."
Paul Simpson
"There is. There's an expectation about Bury as well because they've been up there but at Shrewsbury they have to be promoted, they've chucked the kitchen sink at it this year, they are desperate to get out of this league."
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