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Post by theyesman on Aug 9, 2010 16:20:10 GMT 1
Martin O'Neill resigns from Aston Villa
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Post by Shrewd Operator on Aug 9, 2010 16:21:15 GMT 1
Didnt see this coming, thats madness. A huge loss for Villa maybe because Milners being sold over his head
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 16:23:55 GMT 1
The rumours were that he was going to do one at the end of the season/during the summer.
Maybe, the struggle to offload expensive fringe players, loss of Milner (and potentially Ashley Young) and the lack of funds to get anyone in has left him feeling his position is untenable?
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 9, 2010 16:27:57 GMT 1
Odds on him being the next manager to leave their club were 16/1 yesterday and then 4/7 this morning. Surely this is to do with the whole Milner affair.
A big loss for Villa and can't think of many managers that are without a club at the moment, so close to the start of the season as well. I think they could struggle to get in the top half next season.
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Post by Dancin on Aug 9, 2010 16:46:03 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 16:49:06 GMT 1
Shocker
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Aug 9, 2010 17:01:35 GMT 1
Who will take his place?
American chairman American manager ?
What odds USA national manager Bob Bradley?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 17:10:25 GMT 1
I bet Liverpool are wishing this had happened a few months earlier
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Post by WindsorShrew on Aug 9, 2010 17:13:47 GMT 1
Always thought Mr O'Neil to be a very accomplished Manager. Will be interesting to find out his reasoning certainly not a decision he will of taken lightly.
When and if he decides to continue his career where could it be ?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 9, 2010 17:45:52 GMT 1
I thought Milner wanted to go anyhows? Granted its all hearsay at the moment but evenso, strange this for me. If the club are unable to fund any further transfers then thats it, nowt can be done. Why spit the dummy because funds that you were told were going to be made available are now not. Just get on with it as best as you can like the vast majority of managers in the league...
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 9, 2010 18:04:19 GMT 1
Did a great job there. Not sure if they could ever achieve any better than their sixth place finishes. Think its beneficial to quit while ahead for him, and maybe take on a bigger club when one becomes available. Obviously there is also more to this than meets the eye.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 9, 2010 18:09:15 GMT 1
No pressure on MON for his next job, cos the BBC seem to love him anyway. Not sure where he will next go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 18:11:06 GMT 1
I thought Milner wanted to go anyhows? Granted its all hearsay at the moment but evenso, strange this for me. If the club are unable to fund any further transfers then thats it, nowt can be done. Why spit the dummy because funds that you were told were going to be made available are now not. Just get on with it as best as you can like the vast majority of managers in the league... O' Neil is a very intelligent, and a very proud man. If, as you have stated, he was promised funds for this season, and the promise has been reneged on, that is the Chairman has not kept to his word, then he has every right to walk away. In disgust probably. If he had been told that there was very little money coming his way for team building, then he might of stayed and " just got on with it" as you say. My feelings are, that he was disappointed that the club were prepared to let Milner go, and seem likely to let Young go, probably to Spurs. Building a team of bright young stars at Villa ..... just a dream under the current Chairman.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 9, 2010 18:37:30 GMT 1
I've heard off a Villa mate that a bid off Tottenham for Ashley Young has been accepted behind Martin O'Neils back. Plus Villa have made a significant loss last season and the playing budget has been slashed and won't get replacements in for Milner and Young. Not surprised he left then...
Possible managers: Sven Goran Eriksson Tony Mowbray Bob Bradley Alan Curbishley (Done extremely well on tight budgets) Martin Jol
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 9, 2010 18:43:36 GMT 1
Hands off our Graham
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Post by Pilch on Aug 9, 2010 19:01:24 GMT 1
in theory Turner could resign & re-sign
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Post by shrew4life on Aug 9, 2010 19:01:46 GMT 1
Next Man United manager.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 9, 2010 19:30:21 GMT 1
I thought Milner wanted to go anyhows? Granted its all hearsay at the moment but evenso, strange this for me. If the club are unable to fund any further transfers then thats it, nowt can be done. Why spit the dummy because funds that you were told were going to be made available are now not. Just get on with it as best as you can like the vast majority of managers in the league... O' Neil is a very intelligent, and a very proud man. If, as you have stated, he was promised funds for this season, and the promise has been reneged on, that is the Chairman has not kept to his word, then he has every right to walk away. In disgust probably. If he had been told that there was very little money coming his way for team building, then he might of stayed and " just got on with it" as you say. My feelings are, that he was disappointed that the club were prepared to let Milner go, and seem likely to let Young go, probably to Spurs. Building a team of bright young stars at Villa ..... just a dream under the current Chairman. Without a doubt if Young is to be sold 'behind his back' then I can understand if he is walking, fair enough. But if he going only because he isn't getting funds to spend on players then I think I'd be glad to see the back of him (whether they were promised to him or not is by the by for me). If thats the only thing thats keeping him at such a proud and traditional club as Villa then he doesn't deserve the job. Shows to me how cheaply he views the position... Anyhows, just my look at it...sure there is plenty more behind this...guess we'll have to wait for the full story to come out...
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Post by Ned on Aug 9, 2010 20:11:08 GMT 1
Was just about to post that. I would think it will only be a year or two before SAF calls it a day and O'Neill would certainly be a frontrunner, perhaps along with Mourinho. Interesting news from Villa Park, though, and I also think it will have been to do with something that has gone on above his head. Excellent manager. Villa looked like they had a good future ahead of them, not so sure now.
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Post by shrewblue on Aug 9, 2010 20:50:00 GMT 1
I would be happy enough if he replaced Capello!
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Post by Myddleshrew on Aug 9, 2010 20:58:44 GMT 1
If im honest I saw this coming. The Chairman wants to sell Young and Milner and O'Neil doesn't. I bet you Young and Milner go in next few days
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Post by Tux on Aug 9, 2010 21:05:57 GMT 1
Can't blame him really. Little transfer budget plus seems to have little control over transfers as a whole. Still though bit selfish just 5 days before the season starts. What a massively bad predicament that leaves villa in. No manager and some of the best players are on the way out. Don't see them making the top half of the table next season. Especially considering the potential list of replacements. I bet Liverpool are wishing this had happened a few months earlier Not really Hodgson is a far better and more experienced manager plus he doesn't throw temper tantrums on the sidelines.
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Post by Ned on Aug 9, 2010 21:21:25 GMT 1
I bet Liverpool are wishing this had happened a few months earlier Not really Hodgson is a far better and more experienced manager plus he doesn't throw temper tantrums on the sidelines. Ah, our B&A Liverpool fan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 23:03:58 GMT 1
O' Neil is a very intelligent, and a very proud man. If, as you have stated, he was promised funds for this season, and the promise has been reneged on, that is the Chairman has not kept to his word, then he has every right to walk away. In disgust probably. If he had been told that there was very little money coming his way for team building, then he might of stayed and " just got on with it" as you say. My feelings are, that he was disappointed that the club were prepared to let Milner go, and seem likely to let Young go, probably to Spurs. Building a team of bright young stars at Villa ..... just a dream under the current Chairman. Without a doubt if Young is to be sold 'behind his back' then I can understand if he is walking, fair enough. But if he going only because he isn't getting funds to spend on players then I think I'd be glad to see the back of him (whether they were promised to him or not is by the by for me). If thats the only thing thats keeping him at such a proud and traditional club as Villa then he doesn't deserve the job. Shows to me how cheaply he views the position... Anyhows, just my look at it...sure there is plenty more behind this...guess we'll have to wait for the full story to come out... This story is getting stranger and stranger. Nothing coming out of Villa Park apart from the statement that O'Neill will be staying on to help his successor ease into the job. Does,nt seem to be an acrimonious split then, more of a gentleman's agreement.
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Post by Fingers on Aug 9, 2010 23:47:09 GMT 1
Can't stand the bloke.
Good riddance and close the door on the way out.
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Post by blood red shrews on Aug 9, 2010 23:51:29 GMT 1
Heard that the chairman wanted to invest the money into the ground and facilities long term stuff, so if he's stopping on to help his successor maybe they just have different ideas for the future of the club as O'neill wants immediate investment to try and get into Champions League which is dangerous in the current climate if it doesn't pay off. Is his wife still ill?
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Aug 10, 2010 7:08:36 GMT 1
He is to become Music Critic for the Sun
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 10, 2010 8:10:25 GMT 1
Without a doubt if Young is to be sold 'behind his back' then I can understand if he is walking, fair enough. But if he going only because he isn't getting funds to spend on players then I think I'd be glad to see the back of him (whether they were promised to him or not is by the by for me). If thats the only thing thats keeping him at such a proud and traditional club as Villa then he doesn't deserve the job. Shows to me how cheaply he views the position... Anyhows, just my look at it...sure there is plenty more behind this...guess we'll have to wait for the full story to come out... This story is getting stranger and stranger. Nothing coming out of Villa Park apart from the statement that O'Neill will be staying on to help his successor ease into the job. Does,nt seem to be an acrimonious split then, more of a gentleman's agreement. All the papers this morning are suggesting it’s because the chairman is not providing him with funds for transfers and wages, for that he leaves the club high and dry five days before the season opener. So because the likes of Manchester and Spurs are now able to outspend Villa, because he is not had funds made available to him he walks. They are better off without him. Obviously he’s only interested in a club that is in a position to spend millions…makes sense for him to just sit tight and wait for a chance to manage in Manchester (I just couldn’t see him at Chelsea). He has spat the dummy for me, bottled it...why not simply give it go with what you have and see what comes about? Offload some of the players that he has brought in that haven't had the impact he thought they would and then look to spend once the wage bill is a little more under control?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2010 8:11:30 GMT 1
Randy Lerner was often acknowledged as a role model for how foreign owners of English football clubs should run them. This, therefore, is very unexpected.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Aug 10, 2010 10:26:20 GMT 1
Aged 58, probably knows bigger clubs will come sniffing within two years, which gives him either one last punt at a bigger club or two shots at international tounraments with a country.
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