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Post by BelleVueShrew on Jul 19, 2010 12:31:09 GMT 1
I don't begrudge Roland his season of blue and white.
However, I will not be buying a shirt that is for one season only. There have been far too many one season only shirts in our recent history.
I should also add that I personally will not enjoy watching us play in blue and white. It will be like watching Everton, Chesterfield, Gillingham, Millwall etc. etc. etc.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 19, 2010 12:50:45 GMT 1
In the no camp, for much the same reason Dave has set out...
have not brought a shirt since the days of the old badge and wont be doing so untill its gone.
Also Blue and amber the colours of the team I have supported since I was a kid, this season will feel pretty strange watching us in Macclesfields colours.
All in all I give up with replical shirts at the town, they are either of a terrible quality (Aline/Prostar last few years) or nothing like the kit I would want to buy (this season)
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jul 19, 2010 13:02:02 GMT 1
I'm looking forward to starting the West Stand chant of :
"We want our Amber back !!"
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jul 19, 2010 13:19:26 GMT 1
In the time since i've been watching town - 86/87 I've seen us in: - blue tops with amber arms, and amber shorts and socks - white tops blue shorts and white socks - all white - yellow and blue striped tops, blue shorts, yellow socks - amber shirt with blue eggs, blue shorts and amber socks - all blue - blue top with white socks and blue socks - blue and amber stripes, blue shorts and blue socks (i bought) - all blue, but arms and trim in amber - all blue with a thin amber line (i bought) - all blue with an ajax type thick amber (i bought) - all blue with amber trim and white trim I agree with the posters who state that our blue and amber motiff is what's made us so different to other clubs and something that stands out from the others. For the record I can partly see why we've got a special 125 year kit in the way that we have, however I don't particuarly like the one that we've gone with as a. it's fairly boring and so similar to all the other teams mentioned, and non shrewsbury fans could well get us confused with various other teams b. the shirt and design looks very much like the one we wore back in 1997-1999, which was the jake king era, and one of the worst periods in the history of Shrewsbury Town - and I for one don't want to celebrate or even remember much of that time!! What would have been more interesting to me was that if we really had to have this blue shirt and white shorts design, was that if we made our away kit something like the amber shirt and blue shorts effort we had in the mid 80's - when we were arguably at our peak - www.historicalkits.co.uk/Shrewsbury_Town/Shrewsbury_Town.htm
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Post by africanshrew on Jul 19, 2010 13:33:49 GMT 1
Link------> www.justsport-shop.com/cgi-bin/live/ecommerce.pl?site=oufc_clubshop&state=sub_department&dept_id=01&menu=replicaFor a cheeky off the shelf Nike number I rather like Oxford's new kit - away shirt is non too shabby either. Back to ours, and it all depends on the finish - just looks like a polo shirt in the mock up. Not really a fan of collars either as I tend to wear it for 6-a-side and find them annoying. I'm not an amber loyalist, if it looks good and is well made I'll be happy cos most shirts have failed on these counts in recent years. The badge is still annoying though...
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Post by monkee on Jul 19, 2010 13:56:18 GMT 1
No I won't be buying the new kit. I have only bought the one kit since we moved grounds, having had all of them for years beforehand. The issue with the new kit for me is that people simply do not believe it when we are told we will go back to Blue and Amber. This "commemorative" shirt will undoubtedly be a commercial success, and that will be the reason for keeping with a similar design in the future. If this is the case, then it shows just how stupid the club think its core support it. If this is not the case, then it shows just how little quite a large percentage of the core support actually trust both what the club tell them and their motivation for making decisions. I don't think people are lying as such, I just don't think the decision will be up to people who say we will go back to using amber. Either way it is a lose/lose situation. If I see a Watford shirt I recognise it, yet they played in Blue and White from 1927-1959, then they took up their current colours. Who are the age profile who actually buy replica shirts? Who wears them? Do they see our club colours as Blue and White? Maybe they will after this year? It is just all so self defeating. There is one image that defines the club identity of Shrewsbury Town FC, a totally random freak of nature, but it happened to us. A marketing man's dream. What is funny about it is that a Major League Soccer Franchise saw the potential and modelled their kit on Shrewsbury Town 1978-79, while Shrewsbury Town seem to treat that shirt and that era with utter contempt. It is almost a form of anti-marketing, in a most bizarre way. "Stuff you, you will buy what we sell you" The bad news is that we won't. And even if this kit is a commercial success, which it undoubtedly will be, they could have sold a lot more, and used this event to unite not continue to lay down this dividing line. Meanwhile I, and many hundreds of others, will continue to wear my Toffs shirt to games, a shirt which I believe the football club has never received any royalties / income from. What a waste. a couple of points Dave. why dont you think we will go back to amber? we have amber seats and the badge has amber in it. considering the cost of changing these things , and the way the club have stuck with the badge(howerver you feel about it, it has plenty of amber in it), it would be odd to sat the least for them to change that. I didnt know that the Philly shirt was based on ours, would be interested in reading that info , could you provide a link? tbh, it doesnt look much like the Spinal Tap shirt, the blue is darker and the amber is more of a mustard.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 19, 2010 17:56:49 GMT 1
a couple of points Dave. why dont you think we will go back to amber? we have amber seats and the badge has amber in it. considering the cost of changing these things , and the way the club have stuck with the badge(howerver you feel about it, it has plenty of amber in it), it would be odd to sat the least for them to change that. I didnt know that the Philly shirt was based on ours, would be interested in reading that info , could you provide a link? tbh, it doesnt look much like the Spinal Tap shirt, the blue is darker and the amber is more of a mustard. I am not necessarily saying I don't think we will go back to amber, but I know plenty who don't believe it. As as soon as the Philly shrit came out there was loads of discussion about Spinal tap. Of course they didn't look up shrewsbury town kits down the ages to model it, but it is funny that it looks more like our kit than our kit does. I am not saying it is a colour match, in fact the actual kit is now gold, which is a shame, as the prototype in amber was a corker.
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Post by monkee on Jul 19, 2010 18:04:09 GMT 1
a couple of points Dave. why dont you think we will go back to amber? we have amber seats and the badge has amber in it. considering the cost of changing these things , and the way the club have stuck with the badge(howerver you feel about it, it has plenty of amber in it), it would be odd to sat the least for them to change that. I didnt know that the Philly shirt was based on ours, would be interested in reading that info , could you provide a link? tbh, it doesnt look much like the Spinal Tap shirt, the blue is darker and the amber is more of a mustard. I am not necessarily saying I don't think we will go back to amber, but I know plenty who don't believe it. As as soon as the Philly shrit came out there was loads of discussion about Spinal tap. Of course they didn't look up shrewsbury town kits down the ages to model it, but it is funny that it looks more like our kit than our kit does. I am not saying it is a colour match, in fact the actual kit is now gold, which is a shame, as the prototype in amber was a corker. understood. I did like the initial shirts from philly too
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 18:19:32 GMT 1
The last couple of shirts I purchased were actually plain blue, the Ternhill Communication one worn under Jake and the WSJ one from the 93/94 season
As I pointed out on another thread, I completely agree that I would love us to have a blue and amber STRIPE kit and have a unique identity which we currently dont. I really do think they are missing a trick having not done it for a long, long time
The thing is the fans in recent years in wanting this, believe that by not doing it the club are throwing away our heritage, however in reality they are probably doing the opposite. Ive been looking at that historical kit site and can only find 5 blue and amber stripe shirts. However I can find nearly 30 predominately blue shirts
One of the biggest ironies of this is probably that people are moaning about us going back to blue and white because Roland wants it, when Amber was only introduced because it was the then chairmen's favourite racing colours.
Throb, I can understand what you have said that the worry is that the club will not go back to blue and amber but as I also said in another thread, surely we should cross that bridge when we come to it? Arent we jumping the gun a bit to moan about the club now for something they havent done? If the club do fcuk off us over then Ill be shouting and moaning as much as the next person but I dont understand the reason for moaning now
The club are trying to celebrate their history, something they are regulary moaned at (myself included) for not doing. Surely we should give them a bit of praise for doing so?
As for the posts about the kit is boring, we are supposed to be celebrating our first kit which happened to be plain blue. What do you want to happen to jazz it up?
Incidentally, I know football was very different to nowadays but in whatever ways were possible at the time:
Was there a big fuss when we went all white in 87/88? Was there a big fuss when we went plain blue in 93/94? Was there a big fuss when we blue and white between 95 & 99?
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Post by jaytee on Jul 19, 2010 18:27:44 GMT 1
No I won't be buying the new kit. I have only bought the one kit since we moved grounds, having had all of them for years beforehand. The issue with the new kit for me is that people simply do not believe it when we are told we will go back to Blue and Amber. This "commemorative" shirt will undoubtedly be a commercial success, and that will be the reason for keeping with a similar design in the future. If this is the case, then it shows just how stupid the club think its core support it. If this is not the case, then it shows just how little quite a large percentage of the core support actually trust both what the club tell them and their motivation for making decisions. I don't think people are lying as such, I just don't think the decision will be up to people who say we will go back to using amber. Either way it is a lose/lose situation. If I see a Watford shirt I recognise it, yet they played in Blue and White from 1927-1959, then they took up their current colours. Who are the age profile who actually buy replica shirts? Who wears them? Do they see our club colours as Blue and White? Maybe they will after this year? It is just all so self defeating. There is one image that defines the club identity of Shrewsbury Town FC, a totally random freak of nature, but it happened to us. A marketing man's dream. What is funny about it is that a Major League Soccer Franchise saw the potential and modelled their kit on Shrewsbury Town 1978-79, while Shrewsbury Town seem to treat that shirt and that era with utter contempt. It is almost a form of anti-marketing, in a most bizarre way. "Stuff you, you will buy what we sell you" The bad news is that we won't. And even if this kit is a commercial success, which it undoubtedly will be, they could have sold a lot more, and used this event to unite not continue to lay down this dividing line. Meanwhile I, and many hundreds of others, will continue to wear my Toffs shirt to games, a shirt which I believe the football club has never received any royalties / income from. What a waste. the way the club have stuck with the badge(howerver you feel about it, it has plenty of amber in it), . Well you could hardly have a white lion could you? Oh I don't know though......
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Post by keithyshrew25 on Jul 19, 2010 19:28:59 GMT 1
As long as Shrewsbury has a football club I'll support it, and as long as that team releases replica shirts I'll buy them.
It all seems like needless conflict to me
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Post by jaytee on Jul 19, 2010 19:39:17 GMT 1
It all seems like needless conflict to me I'd like to think it was a debate.
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Post by keithyshrew25 on Jul 20, 2010 20:15:59 GMT 1
It all seems like needless conflict to me I'd like to think it was a debate. It's a debate on here, but the implication is that there is conflict between fans and the club on the handling of the shirt and the (yawn) badge
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Post by jaytee on Jul 20, 2010 21:04:07 GMT 1
I'd like to think it was a debate. the (yawn) badge It obviously isn't important to you, which is fair enough. Some of us think differently.
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Post by siabod on Jul 20, 2010 21:18:24 GMT 1
It obviously isn't important to you, which is fair enough. Some of us think differently. Some of us never wanted to change from blue and white in the first place.
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Post by jaytee on Jul 20, 2010 21:32:27 GMT 1
It obviously isn't important to you, which is fair enough. Some of us think differently. Some of us never wanted to change from blue and white in the first place. No problem with that. I started watching in blue and white, but I prefer amber. Oh, and the loggerheads.
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Post by mattmw on Jul 20, 2010 21:44:02 GMT 1
It obviously isn't important to you, which is fair enough. Some of us think differently. The badge and shirt raise two important issues about the club. With the badge being used in lectures on how not to design a corporate logo the clubs professional judgement is being shown to be rather poor, as is basing a significant income generator (the club shirt) on a whim rather than soundly made commercial decisions. Believe me such things are noted by the commercial world and the club needs to get much more savy with its commercial decisions if its going to generate the income needed to stay competative in future years.
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Post by nicko on Jul 21, 2010 7:29:57 GMT 1
If this is not the case, then it shows just how little quite a large percentage of the core support actually trust both what the club tell them and their motivation for making decisions.
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