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Post by Steve Rogerson on Apr 19, 2010 14:08:26 GMT 1
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Post by drhopster on Apr 19, 2010 15:32:33 GMT 1
torie blair has stated that he has beenand enjoys fox hunting and his mates still do, shrewsburys fool mp daniel kawcynski is mates with otis ferry and would back bringing back hunting 200%.
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Post by shrew4life on Apr 19, 2010 15:36:17 GMT 1
It's a horrible sport (if you can call it that) for toffs. Should 100% remained banned!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 15:43:33 GMT 1
This might be a little controversial on here: ] your right, can anyone clarify the position with regards putting up links to their own websites? with regards fox hunting and the tories, dont think they will make a big deal of it as they know full well it will cause uproar.
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Post by Minor on Apr 19, 2010 16:10:15 GMT 1
The country has debts of £180 billion.......and the subject is ...fox hunting If BLIAR and his cronies hadn't wasted 700 hours debating hunting and instead concentrated on something slightly more important like the national debt, well who knows ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 16:30:59 GMT 1
The country has debts of £180 billion.......and the subject is ...fox hunting If BLIAR and his cronies hadn't wasted 700 hours debating hunting and instead concentrated on something slightly more important like the national debt, well who knows ? ahh the beauty of fulfiling manifesto pledges, obviously not something you are familiar with my friend
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Post by jamo on Apr 19, 2010 17:40:23 GMT 1
If BLIAR and his cronies hadn't wasted 700 hours debating hunting and instead concentrated on something slightly more important like the national debt, well who knows ? I seem to remember us having a pretty strong and flourishing economy under the premiership of Mr Blair but lets not stand in the way of your laboured and predictable prejudices Minor.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Apr 19, 2010 17:45:04 GMT 1
The country has debts of £180 billion.......and the subject is ...fox hunting If BLIAR and his cronies hadn't wasted 700 hours debating hunting and instead concentrated on something slightly more important like the national debt, well who knows ? I like your capitalisation of the word Bliar. Really drums home your point well. Very original spin on his name as well.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 19, 2010 17:58:45 GMT 1
If the smart arse Cameron and his cronies get in, of course they will bring hunting back. What next? Legalised dog fights, cock fighting, bear baiting? How the hell can 52 dogs versus one fox, be described as a sport?
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Post by El Presidente on Apr 19, 2010 18:34:59 GMT 1
I think the Tories are offering to debate repealing the ban, not for them to actually legalise it without discussion in Parliament, so cool the scare mongering...
There are a lot of disgruntled country folk out there who oppose the ban, and not all are 'toffs'...
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Post by nicko on Apr 19, 2010 18:47:31 GMT 1
I must admit that since fox hunting has been banned I have been sleeping much better at night.
Only in the UK.
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Post by theriverside on Apr 19, 2010 19:08:18 GMT 1
It's a horrible sport (if you can call it that) for toffs. Should 100% remained banned! Go to a hunt and count the 'toffs' there, and just because someone is wearing a red riding coat does not mean you can assume they are one either. You'll find - amazingly - plenty of people from all walks of life in attendance. And before you ask, I'm no particular fan of hunting, just can't stand the class war b0l0x that gets in the way of someone having an objective view. I see some idiots have defaced every Conservative poster along the Bridgnorth/Shrewsbury road................power to the people eh?
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Post by WindsorShrew on Apr 19, 2010 19:37:18 GMT 1
ahh the beauty of fulfiling manifesto pledges, obviously not something you are familiar with my friend Referendum on Europe comes to mind, broken by this Government.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Apr 19, 2010 19:40:27 GMT 1
I seem to remember us having a pretty strong and flourishing economy under the premiership of Mr Blair Provided by the opponents in the Blue corner, run to ruin by the red corner. but lets not stand in the way of your laboured and predictable prejudices Minor. Pot and big Kettle come to mind when you say that mate.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Apr 19, 2010 19:44:34 GMT 1
It's a horrible sport (if you can call it that) for toffs. Should 100% remained banned! Can you please define Toff, I ask because I know three people who take part in some form or another and I am eager as to what part of them is a toff or how indeed they qualify. Many thanks.
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Post by MarkRowley on Apr 19, 2010 20:33:38 GMT 1
The fox deserves everything he gets for all those years spent pestering that poor polar bear......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 20:51:12 GMT 1
I'm anti-fox hunting.
The hypocrisy of people who use it as a national political issue is staggering though. Plenty of more important issues, both in the field of animal rights and also much greater.
It was a stick to beat people who don't live in traditional Labour constituencies with.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 20:58:30 GMT 1
I,m all for standing up for the weaker ones in our Society, so to address the balance, what about MR. & MRS. RABBIT. Yeah, feel bad now, all you " Save the Fox" inbreds.
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Post by monkee on Apr 19, 2010 21:33:57 GMT 1
I'm anti-fox hunting. The hypocrisy of people who use it as a national political issue is staggering though. Plenty of more important issues, both in the field of animal rights and also much greater. It was a stick to beat people who don't live in traditional Labour constituencies with. absolutely, it is an issue with much hypocracy. as an angler, i cant really take the moral high ground, but i dont like the odds in foxhunting. It's a passtime which takes pleasure from cruelty, but the same can be said of eating the products of the food industry. Shame both dont carry the same political weight
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Post by El Presidente on Apr 19, 2010 21:51:25 GMT 1
Indeed Marcus, its as subjective as those that wish to politicise it wish it to be. What annoys me more about the fox hunting manefesto pledge was as Welshie states, it was purely used to draw votes from those who had it particularly high on their agenda. Nothing morally sound in it whatsoever, but then when have politicians been morally sound. I'm a shooter myself, and eagerly await the next time the minority pressure groups get to over-represent their views on a national stage...2015 I think?
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Post by shrew4life on Apr 19, 2010 23:34:17 GMT 1
It's a horrible sport (if you can call it that) for toffs. Should 100% remained banned! Can you please define Toff, I ask because I know three people who take part in some form or another and I am eager as to what part of them is a toff or how indeed they qualify. Many thanks. Only Toffs get defensive when the word toff is used, so maybe your one. Maybe toff isn't the right word for the people who take part in fox hunting. Maybe the word I'm looking for is cruel, horrible, heartless and condoning of animal cruelty. And people who cause harm to innocent animals are in my eyes scum.
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Post by monkee on Apr 19, 2010 23:41:40 GMT 1
Can you please define Toff, I ask because I know three people who take part in some form or another and I am eager as to what part of them is a toff or how indeed they qualify. Many thanks. Only Toffs get defensive when the word toff is used, so maybe your one. Maybe toff isn't the right word for the people who take part in fox hunting. Maybe the word I'm looking for is cruel, horrible, heartless and condoning of animal cruelty. And people who cause harm to innocent animals are in my eyes scum. are you a vegan?
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Post by shrew4life on Apr 19, 2010 23:56:31 GMT 1
I thought someone might make that point. Killing animals humanely for food in my eyes is fine and justified. Getting dogs to tear an animal apart is not fine or justified.
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Post by monkee on Apr 20, 2010 0:05:49 GMT 1
I thought someone might make that point. Killing animals humanely for food in my eyes is fine and justified. Getting dogs to tear an animal apart is not fine or justified. no, i dont like it either. the point that i am trying to make is that some of the food we eat comes from places that are also cruel, we also wear leather that comes from countries that arent as fussy about their standards as we are. but people make more of a fuss about the cute furry animal cruelty than all of the other injustices that animals suffer.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 20, 2010 0:58:08 GMT 1
While the country maybe millions of pounds in debt, anyone who is in favour of fox hunting is an immoral scumbag in my book, regardless of social class.
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Post by nicko on Apr 20, 2010 6:04:04 GMT 1
What Gareth said.
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Post by El Presidente on Apr 20, 2010 8:20:07 GMT 1
Anyhoo...the 'sport' of fox hunting is banned, but that still leaves the opportunity to trap, shoot or poison it. I think a lot of people in urban areas are noticing an increase in missing pet rabbits, cats and small dogs thanks no doubt to the explosion in the fantastic Mr Fox population... I'm not saying hunting was a cure, but we do have a problem with foxes here, and the time will come where some form of action will need to be taken...how would we stand another 'Myxomatosis' type scandal? People need to remember that, yes the Fox is a beautiful wild animal, but it is also first and foremost a highly efficient and indiscriminate predator, even pest, and should not be described as cute, cuddly, or 'innocent'...
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 20, 2010 9:56:48 GMT 1
There's many people i could also describe as that El Presidente, maybe we should go hunting people with asbos with a pack of dogs instead
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Post by Minor on Apr 20, 2010 10:08:21 GMT 1
Can you please define Toff, I ask because I know three people who take part in some form or another and I am eager as to what part of them is a toff or how indeed they qualify. Many thanks. Only Toffs get defensive when the word toff is used, so maybe your one. Maybe toff isn't the right word for the people who take part in fox hunting. Maybe the word I'm looking for is cruel, horrible, heartless and condoning of animal cruelty. And people who cause harm to innocent animals are in my eyes scum. And of course foxes are lovely and cuddly aren't they Of course i had overlooked the fact that these days all foxes are vegans of course and don't maul chickens, lambs etc etc
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Post by froggy on Apr 20, 2010 10:18:03 GMT 1
If the smart arse Cameron and his cronies get in, of course they will bring hunting back. What next? Legalised dog fights, cock fighting, bear baiting? How the hell can 52 dogs versus one fox, be described as a sport? lol, cronies? Have you not noticed the numerous amounts of cronies in the Labour party? Far far more than any other party! Further, fox's are pests, people in cities and towns don't realise this and see them as beautiful ginger dogs when in fact they kill famers chickens and eat their vegetables, they are merely pests. The way in which they're killed is quite brutal and should be changed, however, it lead onto then, is shooting a bird in the sky brutal? My friends dad hunts and says sometimes you hit the bird but it doesn't die straight away ... That's more brutal if you ask me!
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