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Post by Pilch on Jun 18, 2010 20:47:17 GMT 1
Ditto
he has been a joke
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Post by theriverside on Jun 18, 2010 20:56:54 GMT 1
How dire is this ref? 3rd or 4th time he has given blatant decisions on corners or throw ins the wrong way..........................
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Post by DiggerDave on Jun 18, 2010 21:00:03 GMT 1
No point in blaming the ref.We`re pants and thats all there is to it.
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Post by DiggerDave on Jun 18, 2010 21:01:03 GMT 1
Who is this Rooney bloke.he`s Crap
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Post by Salop1977 on Jun 18, 2010 21:05:03 GMT 1
If we have serious ambitions in the world cup we need to beat teams like USA & Algeria. We are playing like a pub team at the moment.
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Post by theriverside on Jun 18, 2010 21:05:41 GMT 1
No point in blaming the ref I'm not, Algeria have been done by him a few times and so have we, just poor poor decisions.........................
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Post by DiggerDave on Jun 18, 2010 21:09:55 GMT 1
6 million quid a year for this.Mclaren could have delivered this rubbish.Something definetly wrong in the England camp.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jun 18, 2010 21:14:28 GMT 1
Very disapointing.
The campaign hangs on a knife edge.
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Post by DiggerDave on Jun 18, 2010 21:19:17 GMT 1
Unless Rooney scores in the last 10 secs he has been very very poor.
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Post by DiggerDave on Jun 18, 2010 21:20:08 GMT 1
Capello out
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Post by Pilch on Jun 18, 2010 21:23:50 GMT 1
Oh well i'm a fiver up lol 5 on Algeria or draw at ht 2/1 then stupidly laid it off by betting 5 on England with 10 mins left also at 2/1 big money eh
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 18, 2010 21:24:49 GMT 1
How woeful was Rooney? He looked disinterested, did not control one ball correctly all game
Lampard looked like a poor man's McIntyre
Gerrard tried but that was last seasons Liverpool form
All in all absolute crap
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Post by poolieshrew on Jun 18, 2010 21:29:34 GMT 1
Has there ever been a more overated player than F. Lampard an international level?
For watever reason Rooney was not at the races and it would be fair to say his touch was worse than Heskeys during the game which says it all.
Only Barry, Swp when he came on came out of the game with any credit it what is a bleak night for english football.
Totally despondant........
Oh and Rooney getting annoyed at fans who have spent thousands to follow there country booing them....! Get over it you were dire / deserve to be booed and you sound like a certain Mr Simpson!
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jun 18, 2010 21:29:39 GMT 1
This is the worst England team I have ever had the misfortune to see. Truly awful. There was not one single positive to be gained from the entire 90 minutes. Oh, hang on, Carragher is suspended for the next game. There's one positive after all. So maybe we'll see Dawson, the form defender in the Premier League coming off the back of an excellent season....or perhaps Mr. Capello will once again ignore logic and pick Upson.
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Post by jaytee on Jun 18, 2010 21:30:49 GMT 1
lettuce all sit in a circle and tell sad stories.
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Post by Tux on Jun 18, 2010 21:32:40 GMT 1
Maybe this will finally teach the nation to stop overhyping england every world cup. Nothing more then a bunch of overpaid poofs who don't give a toss. This is the worst England team I have ever had the misfortune to see. Truly awful. There was not one single positive to be gained from the entire 90 minutes. Oh, hang on, Carragher is suspended for the next game. There's one positive after all. So maybe we'll see Dawson, the form defender in the Premier League coming off the back of an excellent season....or perhaps Mr. Capello will once again ignore logic and pick Upson. What the **** are you smoking? Carragher was good.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jun 18, 2010 21:35:51 GMT 1
Carragher was slow and dirty. He was, however, better than Terry who was slower, dirtier and even more useless in his distribution.
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Post by theriverside on Jun 18, 2010 21:38:51 GMT 1
Maybe this will finally teach the nation to stop overhyping england every world cup. Nothing more then a bunch of overpaid poofs who don't give a toss. This is the worst England team I have ever had the misfortune to see. Truly awful. There was not one single positive to be gained from the entire 90 minutes. Oh, hang on, Carragher is suspended for the next game. There's one positive after all. So maybe we'll see Dawson, the form defender in the Premier League coming off the back of an excellent season....or perhaps Mr. Capello will once again ignore logic and pick Upson. What the **** are you smoking? Carragher was good. Off the pace, desparate stuff from Carra. If we manage to get out of this group then a better team will expose him for the player he is ie a half decent club player and nothing more....................
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jun 18, 2010 21:42:11 GMT 1
Can you imagine this England team against Argentina? I doubt we would manage 10% possession and they would run up a cricket score.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Jun 18, 2010 23:10:51 GMT 1
Positive from the game is that Carragher is suspended. But that performance was absolutely atrocious. Maybe in 2014 then? Crouch offers what Heskey does + goals Absolute bulls**t. Crouch is a pathetic player with absolutely no physical presence. Despite his incredible height, he is abysmal in the air and has probably won about 2 headers in his entire career to date. Heskey is the nation's best target-man. Feedo Knasher knows nothing about football. Nothing new then? Crouch has scored more than 2 headers in his career let alone won 2. I agree with Feedo. Crouch MUST start next game and Heskey should be dropped. Surely Englands worst player ever? Runs around like a headless chicken is a big fat lump of lard. Pathetic player.
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Post by texmexshrew on Jun 19, 2010 0:31:05 GMT 1
6 million quid a year for this.Mclaren could have delivered this rubbish.Something definetly wrong in the England camp. From the outset there was an impression of this. Gerrard and Rooney clearly not happy with their roles. No tracking back from them two, no zip about the play. Gerrard having to come inside to find the ball and any involvement. Someone explain to me why Capello made it so public, such a chalice around his neck that Barry played? A defensive midfielder, to protect the centre halves against ALGERIA. They play one up front for fecks sake and shouldnt be a significant threat to warrant this change. Consider it on many levels - inclusion of Barry, Milner/Cole not starting and there is no doubt it contributed to the detriment of Gerrards performance. The national team captain reduced to bit part contributions from out wide. If you're gonna play Barry, then drop Lampard who has been woeful in two games , allow Gerrard to make the runs from midfield and play Cole or Milner out left. Forget the twin headed ****wits of Lennon and SWP for the sake of football. Agree with Digger - something not right about that line up, attitude energy, enthusiasm today. At the same time give much much credit to Algeria. Organised. Compact defensively. Hungry with and without the ball. Keen to press the oppostion. Technically pretty good. CONFIDENT. About time England gets over the delusions of grandieur that International football owes them something. 1966 was two generations away, the world has moved on and left you behind.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jun 19, 2010 0:46:11 GMT 1
Wouldn't be surprised if Rooney isn't suffering with an injury. Does Joe Cole have to shag Capello to get a game? For one dreadful minute I thought Carrick was going to come on.
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Post by Bilbo on Jun 19, 2010 1:55:29 GMT 1
My point of view... It was utter RUBBISH! I can only pick one player out of the team who had any commitment in the team and that was Glen Johnson. As for the rest it was appalling . Heskey, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney were diabolical and should be ashamed
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Post by VikingsShrew on Jun 19, 2010 1:56:09 GMT 1
Yes we are crying out for Joe Cole - so uninventive and boring - where exactly was Lampard? If Capello want to back up his promise of picking players on their form and not on reputation Lampard should be dropped for the next match.
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Post by Minor on Jun 19, 2010 6:44:33 GMT 1
england will score within 20 minutes, an algerian will get sent off and we will go on to win it 4-0 Reeeeeeeeeeeally
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Post by nicko on Jun 19, 2010 7:02:55 GMT 1
6 million quid a year for this.Mclaren could have delivered this rubbish.Something definetly wrong in the England camp. From the outset there was an impression of this. Gerrard and Rooney clearly not happy with their roles. No tracking back from them two, no zip about the play. Gerrard having to come inside to find the ball and any involvement. Someone explain to me why Capello made it so public, such a chalice around his neck that Barry played? A defensive midfielder, to protect the centre halves against ALGERIA. They play one up front for fecks sake and shouldnt be a significant threat to warrant this change. Consider it on many levels - inclusion of Barry, Milner/Cole not starting and there is no doubt it contributed to the detriment of Gerrards performance. The national team captain reduced to bit part contributions from out wide. If you're gonna play Barry, then drop Lampard who has been woeful in two games , allow Gerrard to make the runs from midfield and play Cole or Milner out left. Forget the twin headed ****wits of Lennon and SWP for the sake of football. Agree with Digger - something not right about that line up, attitude energy, enthusiasm today. At the same time give much much credit to Algeria. Organised. Compact defensively. Hungry with and without the ball. Keen to press the oppostion. Technically pretty good. CONFIDENT. About time England gets over the delusions of grandieur that International football owes them something. 1966 was two generations away, the world has moved on and left you behind. Good post, strongly agree with the last paragraph. Personally after the World Cup I'd get the cream of the U21's and U19's involved in the senior squad, get them experience during the Euro '12 qualifiers, not worry about qualification and look to 2014 and beyond. Thing is would the national media and supporters countenance such a thing?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2010 7:58:57 GMT 1
The Doctor’s expert thoughts are as follows:
The main factor in England’s dismal start to this World Cup has been caused by the mundane tempo. There is a lack of urgency, fluidity and energy to England’s play and the situation is exacerbated by ineffective, route-one football.
Gerrard is NOT a left-midfielder and by playing him there, Capello is marginalising England’s best player. As for Gareth Barry, what was all the hype about? I understand the idea of having left-sided balance in the midfield but his passing was woeful and he failed to make any sort of impact. It is laughable that Gerrard was pushed out onto the flank to accommodate him. A useful squad player and nothing more.
The Heskey situation is an interesting one. Personally, I feel that the Heskey and Rooney are the best strike partnership that this country has to offer. I simply do not rate any of the other forwards at Capello’s disposal – Crouch is an overrated beanpole with no aerial presence and Defoe is garbage at international level. Heskey has the power to disrupt defenders whereas the flimsy Peter Crouch is the proverbial bitch in the prison showers.
Carragher’s performance was also poor and John Terry seemed incapable of retaining the ball. His distribution was dreadful and there can be little doubt that he is one of the world’s most overrated players. He is also not the lion-hearted ‘Captain Marvel’ that the press make him out to be – where was his dogged determination last night? Comparisons with Terry Butcher are really wide of the mark.
As for *Lennon and Wright-Phillips, both are useless. All flair and no trousers. Did Wright-Phillips manage to deliver a single cross into the box last night? He had easily half a dozen chances and every single one was blocked for a corner. A dreadful player that has really gone off the boil since greedily leaving Man City for Chelsea several years ago. Send him home.
I also found the hype as to Capello’s goalkeeping choice to be laughable. We were playing Algeria and it was hardly a pressing issue. The issue detracted from England’s main failings – an inability to dominate and, above all, a lack of ideas.
My formation for the Slovenia game would be a 4-4-1-1. I like Heskey but his performance wasn't good enough and with that in mind:
-------- James -------
Johnson Terry Dawson Cole
J. Cole Lampard Barry Milner
------- Gerrard -------
------- Rooney -------
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jun 19, 2010 8:49:42 GMT 1
Walcott isn't even at the World Cup DrCrippen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2010 8:51:40 GMT 1
Walcott isn't even at the World Cup DrCrippen. Sincere apologies, I meant Lennon. Both short and famed for their electric pace. It was an easy mistake to make.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jun 19, 2010 9:04:40 GMT 1
Both lightning quick and often ultimately unproductive. Lennon has been bitterly disappointing so far in this tournament.
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