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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 25, 2010 19:54:47 GMT 1
not seen one, yet whats it all about ? I'm in the same boat Watched about 10 mins of one and thought it was a load of wishy-washy nonsense
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Post by monkee on May 26, 2010 0:41:06 GMT 1
not seen one, yet whats it all about ? I'm in the same boat Watched about 10 mins of one and thought it was a load of wishy-washy nonsense you mean you didnt understand what was going on without davina telling you in a companion programme
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Post by GlosShrew on May 26, 2010 6:05:06 GMT 1
Have to say I was very dissapointed with the end and without giving to much away I hope - what was the point of the 'Flash-Sideways' in this series? Did not add anything at all to the storyline (unless I am missing something).
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Post by shrewinjapan on May 26, 2010 6:48:56 GMT 1
Have to say I was very dissapointed with the end and without giving to much away I hope - what was the point of the 'Flash-Sideways' in this series? Did not add anything at all to the storyline (unless I am missing something). Agreed - we were led to believe the flash sideways was connected to the detonation of the nuke (as it came directly after that), but infact it had no direct relevance to the general storyline.
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Post by monkee on May 26, 2010 10:01:27 GMT 1
Have to say I was very dissapointed with the end and without giving to much away I hope - what was the point of the 'Flash-Sideways' in this series? Did not add anything at all to the storyline (unless I am missing something). Agreed - we were led to believe the flash sideways was connected to the detonation of the nuke (as it came directly after that), but infact it had no direct relevance to the general storyline. the nuke didnt set the LAX realm to happen, LAX was a construct of their own minds, where they came to terms with their own deaths and waited for each other. it had no existance in our space/time or in any other dimensions time /space.
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Post by shrewinjapan on May 26, 2010 10:26:08 GMT 1
Yes, obviously we know that now having watched the finale. That is what I am saying - we were LED TO BELIEVE that the sideflash LA was a result of the Nuke because it was introduced directly following the detonation, and by implication that the two simultaneous storylines would rejoin. But finally we discover that it was nothing to do with that at all and was actually a purgatory for the characters to meet up after death and resolve some issues before moving on. Although the sideflash took up a large portion of the final season, removing it entirely would not affect the main story at all. And when you look at the finale without the sideflash resolution, then very little happened and almost none of our questions were answered. This is why a lot of people are feeling a bit short-changed I guess.
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Post by monkee on May 26, 2010 11:22:19 GMT 1
but the whole series was filled with red herrings, thats lost. the nuke didnt go off , juliette died and miles listened to her from beyond the grave, she said"it worked", which given the end of the show, suggests that when she died, she went to LAX.
what questions did you want answering? the only ones i cant think of an answer to were what was the light(which was sort of explained, but where did it originate. and who was the woman that brought Jacob and mib up and where did she come from.
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Post by shrewinjapan on May 26, 2010 13:28:39 GMT 1
What were the numbers? What were the others up to exactly? What was all the weirdness with Walt and Aaron? What was that s**t with the room which Locke's dad turned up in? Why would it have been the end of everything if mib had left the island? What happened to Sayid? Who exactly were the Dharma Initiative? Plenty of other stuff I'd have liked to know which I can't recall just now...
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Post by monkee on May 26, 2010 14:37:47 GMT 1
What were the numbers? What were the others up to exactly? What was all the weirdness with Walt and Aaron? What was that s**t with the room which Locke's dad turned up in? Why would it have been the end of everything if mib had left the island? What happened to Sayid? Who exactly were the Dharma Initiative? Plenty of other stuff I'd have liked to know which I can't recall just now... i think that a lot of that has been put down to the general anomelous nature of the island. Sayid was blown up in the sub saving everyone else rom the bomob that mib put in the boat. Some of it has been dealt with in podcasts from the writers. The walt thing was the mib influencing dharma to get him off the island as he was a candidate. The Dharma initiative was just one of a number of different groups trying to get hold of the uniqueness of the island (hallucinations from the magnetic proximity, as explained by Jacob and his mum/ murderess.
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Post by der kaiser on May 26, 2010 14:44:24 GMT 1
Was there a need to answer all of the questions?
Why does everything need to be wrapped up into a neat little package?
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Post by shrewinjapan on May 26, 2010 16:01:19 GMT 1
With Sayid I actually meant the dying and coming back to life thing.
Don't get me wrong - I really enjoyed Lost and am not that bothered that much of it remained a mystery. I never expected them to give many answers so wasn't disappointed. However with hindsight I think the plot, which all basically boiled down to "it's a weird island, full of weird people, where weird s**t happens", was really flimsy. It just served as a device for some really stylish direction techniques, great characterisation and fine acting. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by monkee on May 26, 2010 16:15:59 GMT 1
With Sayid I actually meant the dying and coming back to life thing. Don't get me wrong - I really enjoyed Lost and am not that bothered that much of it remained a mystery. I never expected them to give many answers so wasn't disappointed. However with hindsight I think the plot, which all basically boiled down to "it's a weird island, full of weird people, where weird s**t happens", was really flimsy. It just served as a device for some really stylish direction techniques, great characterisation and fine acting. Nothing wrong with that. i understand now what you mean a bit better and agree with much of what you say, but whatever reason they gave for the island being weird, it would have upset someone who didnt agree. whatever reason they gave, it would have been fiction and labelled as not realistic enough which is interesting as some(not you) are quite prepared to belive that a smoke monster can do loads of crazy stuff, but will go to the trouble of researching theories to do with the science of the show to enable them to score points on one of the messageboards. you are right in what you say about the characters being well developed, and with so many of them to follow and keep track of, it is more like a book than a tv series. never been so attached to a tv show before, quite gutted when it ended apparently there should be some more answers in the season 6 dvd, which i think is a tacky ploy personally.
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Post by Fingers on May 26, 2010 16:56:33 GMT 1
I read from some poster on another forum that the light was the beginning of creation/universe and where all life comes from and where it returns.
I quite like that sentiment.
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Post by monkee on May 26, 2010 17:03:03 GMT 1
I read from some poster on another forum that the light was the beginning of creation/universe and where all life comes from and where it returns. I quite like that sentiment. which lost forum did you use fingers? i usually went for the ABC one out of habit. think there was a darkufo one or something
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Post by stfcfan87 on May 27, 2010 21:33:54 GMT 1
Ok just seen the finale, and having watched all the episodes multiple times and all the dvd documentaries i'll throw in my view
i don't really have a problem with the way it ended, but i don't really get the sideways bit
from what i could make out, all of the characters were plodding along with their lives, and then slowly being woken up to their island history when they met another of the islanders and had a certain connection. desmond's mission throughout the series seemed to be to provoke this reaction.
so then, what i don't get is
why on earth were sawyer and miles working together - yet not getting this - why was jack able to be married to juliet and not get this?
who was david (jack's son)?
why was richard / frank / missing from all of them?
why were michael, walt, anna lucia, charlotte, daniel and miles missing from the end scene?
Obviously there would be ekko too but i'm guessing that was due to contracts but the others appeared in the final season.
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Post by monkee on May 27, 2010 22:15:45 GMT 1
Ok just seen the finale, and having watched all the episodes multiple times and all the dvd documentaries i'll throw in my view i don't really have a problem with the way it ended, but i don't really get the sideways bit from what i could make out, all of the characters were plodding along with their lives, and then slowly being woken up to their island history when they met another of the islanders and had a certain connection. desmond's mission throughout the series seemed to be to provoke this reaction. so then, what i don't get is why on earth were sawyer and miles working together - yet not getting this - why was jack able to be married to juliet and not get this? who was david (jack's son)? why was richard / frank / missing from all of them? why were michael, walt, anna lucia, charlotte, daniel and miles missing from the end scene? Obviously there would be ekko too but i'm guessing that was due to contracts but the others appeared in the final season. i think with michael, having killed Libby and done a runner, he didnt get in. Walt maybe wasnt around for long enough, he did make an early contact with Locke and Hurley. maybe they were there but we didnt see them. you could end up with quite a lot of people to cover in a short scene if you include miles, his dad, his mum, walt michael etc maybe the dvd they are on about will have an extended scene or something. i think the point about desmond is , that as the constant, he was the catylist that sets them off. their existance on that plane of reality only existed from when they got off the plane, so only covered a few days and some imagined memories or fantasies until they wer awakened. typical lost though, still keeping us asking questions and debating the possible answers
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Post by Victoria on May 28, 2010 4:05:23 GMT 1
I'm happy with it. It was a great couple of hours of TV and the best series I've watched, probably will be forever.
I'm happy with what was explained and what wasn't. The supernatural can't be explained and as soon as people try it ends up getting all lame so leaving those things open is much more staisfying.
The quick flashbacks were a nice reminder of what each character has been through and the relationships they formed on the island. It took a lot to get to the end.
Also the numbers were explained in a web game during the season 2 hiatus I think. Lostpedia is a good source of information, you'd be surprised what has actually been explained over the course of 6 seasons.
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