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Post by Scarecrow on Nov 1, 2009 14:20:35 GMT 1
Well he's served his sentance and is playing but while at Notts County, the entire first half was taken up by chants such as: "Murder, Murder, Murder" and "Lee Hughes is a coward, he hit and ran off"; But I wonder if this is fair? Surely he has served his sentance and now it is his second chance and we should not be taunting him and bullying him. It was low level bullying and was quite sad to see from fans who at the same time cheered Luke Rogers even after his firework incident. BTW my respects to the family of the man he killed. Opinions?
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Post by mrbunny on Nov 1, 2009 14:21:49 GMT 1
He is scum and should not be playing football.
I take it you want us to sign Marlon King when he serves his sentence then do you?
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Post by Scarecrow on Nov 1, 2009 14:22:35 GMT 1
He is scum and should not be playing football. I take it you want us to sign Marlon King when he serves his sentence then do you? I know but the point is we're better than low level abuse
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Post by ian1989 on Nov 1, 2009 14:26:17 GMT 1
I think alot of the hostility towards him comes from the length of sentance 6 years doesnt seem long enough to me. Also the way he appears to be, such as his "hughesy" dance. I know it is a celebration but i think it just looks really smug. He may not be thinking about it but everytime he scores there will be people saying he sudnt b out, so perhaps more humility in the way he goes about things would mean levels of abuse wud subside.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Nov 1, 2009 15:23:17 GMT 1
Lee Hughes did a terrible thing in 2003. He was convicted and duly punished by the British legal system ergo he has paid for his crime.
That of course will not bring Mr Graham back from the grave.
The issue here is that he is very much in the public eye and of course an easy target for opposing fans.
I for one did not shout abuse at him yesterday, plenty did and I can understand why.
Downie came out with some good stuff as we discussed the issue on the way home ref rehabilitation. Not often Downie impresses me with knowledge and a balanced viewpoint but he did yesterday.....
Back to Mr Hughes, I don't particularly have a problem with him.
However i do believe that if he ever played in a Salop shirt he would be the first not to have my support.
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Post by eggman on Nov 1, 2009 15:31:17 GMT 1
He is scum and should not be playing football. I take it you want us to sign Marlon King when he serves his sentence then do you? I know but the point is we're better than low level abuse that would be nice
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2009 15:32:09 GMT 1
Lee Hughes did a terrible thing in 2003. He was convicted and duly punished by the British legal system ergo he has paid for his crime. That of course will not bring Mr Graham back from the grave. The issue here is that he is very much in the public eye and of course an easy target for opposing fans. I for one did not shout abuse at him yesterday, plenty did and I can understand why. Downie came out with some good stuff as we discussed the issue on the way home ref rehabilitation. Not often Downie impresses me with knowledge and a balanced viewpoint but he did yesterday..... Back to Mr Hughes, I don't particularly have a problem with him. However i do believe that if he ever played in a Salop shirt he would be the first not to have my support. Whilst i agree with much of what ergo has said, i cant help feeling that if he did sign for us and was scoring 30 a season, many would willingly be giving towards a banner with "hughesy is superman" on it..
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Post by shrewswolf on Nov 1, 2009 15:33:48 GMT 1
Im sure they would chant his name if he did play and score for us but many wouldnt go as far as a flag, I wouldnt.
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Post by Tux on Nov 1, 2009 15:37:42 GMT 1
He left some person to die.
He deserve all the abuse he gets.
Yes accidents on the road happen but when you leave somebody to die then your a coward and deserve everything you get.
His sentence was a joke.
Why does he deserve a second chance? His Victim might of had a chance to if Hughes would have gotten out of the car and helped but no he took off like a coward.
We should all smash a car in to him and all leave him there while he is begging for help. Lets see how he likes it.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Nov 1, 2009 15:47:23 GMT 1
He's done the sentence given to him by the courts, and as such, deserves his chance to continue his career.
Doesn't mean he shouldn't recieve a torrent of abuse for his horrible actions.
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Post by visitingshrimper on Nov 1, 2009 16:17:55 GMT 1
He deservedly gets it wherever he goes. He is out on license & should be reminded of that too. He even got abuse when I saw him play at Cheltenham a few weeks back, so if their 100+ fans do it, wait to see what will be chanted if Notts County play at Anfield, Old Trafford or Elland Road in the FA Cup. He gets reminded every Saturday of what he did, the family of Mr Graham get reminded every day & several times a day too!
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 1, 2009 16:48:42 GMT 1
Lee Hughes is a murderer and deserves everything he gets, especially because he ran away!
He should still be allowed to play football though, its like saying a Plumber cannot carry on plumbing after serving a prison sentence, its just a career like any other!
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Nov 1, 2009 17:17:52 GMT 1
It made it much worse when he gave us all a really, really SMUG smirk - about 15 minutes into the first half.
It just said me that he wasn't at all sorry - we did all we could do yeasterday about him, stop him scoring and making him look distinctively average.
He will get what he deserves - just wait - karma and all that!!
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Post by solishrew on Nov 1, 2009 17:32:04 GMT 1
It made it much worse when he gave us all a really, really SMUG smirk - about 15 minutes into the first half. It just said me that he wasn't at all sorry - we did all we could do yeasterday about him, stop him scoring and making him look distinctively average. He will get what he deserves - just wait - karma and all that!! Yes, I saw that - would go as far as to say he seemed to be the one doing the taunting at that particular moment. As far as I am concerned he is absolute scum.
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Post by jamo on Nov 1, 2009 17:33:33 GMT 1
He definitely deserves to plying his trade as he has paid his dues with regards to the sentence he recieved.
I gave him abuse yesterday and would do so again
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Post by Shrewd Operator on Nov 1, 2009 17:43:30 GMT 1
He's a murder, so if he recieves abuse for it then that's right.
His dance is the only reason i gave him abuse i know he didnt have a chance to do it yesterday but whenever he does i cringe, he ask's for everything he recieves..
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Post by ambergambler on Nov 1, 2009 18:08:45 GMT 1
lets see ambulance or leg it! How many people would do a runner-? No one i know.
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Post by bomereheathshrew on Nov 1, 2009 19:01:44 GMT 1
You reap what you sow!! He tried to save his own neck whilst refusing to save somebody else. He is very lucky to have a job, i know that if i did the same as him then i would struggle to get one after serving my time. I think he needs to learn a little bit more respect and humility. All the same the bloke is a complete tool and i think he is getting what he deserve's unlike his prison sentence which was way too short!!!!
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Post by Shrewd Operator on Nov 1, 2009 19:01:57 GMT 1
One thing i forgot to mention in post before was that the reason Hughes deserves everything he gets is because if he rang a amberlance instead of s**tting himself and being a coward he could of saved the lad's life, i personally wouldnt be able to live with that on my conscience i don't know how he can.
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Post by coracle on Nov 1, 2009 19:05:55 GMT 1
Who says he can? But you have to get on with it and deal with the cards that have been played to you.
I don't condone him being released so early, but at the end of the day what's done is done and what is continually bringing it up going to do than continually remind the family. One of the human being's most important traits is the ability to move on after great sadness, let's let them do it.
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Post by bomereheathshrew on Nov 1, 2009 19:13:38 GMT 1
Who says he can? But you have to get on with it and deal with the cards that have been played to you. I don't condone him being released so early, but at the end of the day what's done is done and what is continually bringing it up going to do than continually remind the family. One of the human being's most important traits is the ability to move on after great sadness, let's let them do it. Looks to me like he is not having too many sleepless nights over the whole thing.
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Post by coracle on Nov 1, 2009 19:17:43 GMT 1
Why, are you watching him in his personal time?
None of us know him or have a clue to his mindset. At the end of the day, he's been a professional sportsman all his adult life (save a few years of course), I'm sure to have got to the level that he did get to before it all happened that he's perfectly capable of compartmentalising his life come game day.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Nov 1, 2009 19:26:32 GMT 1
The lad is complete scum and fully deserves his comments. He is very lucky to be still playing.
As supporters we pay our money to watch the game and we can taunt that scumbag asmuch as we want aslong as its within the rules.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Nov 1, 2009 19:28:31 GMT 1
As supporters we pay our money to watch the game and we can taunt that scumbag asmuch as we want aslong as its within the rules. Educate me then, what are these rules you speak of, where are they laid down and where can I read them ?
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Nov 1, 2009 19:37:00 GMT 1
As supporters we pay our money to watch the game and we can taunt that scumbag asmuch as we want aslong as its within the rules. Educate me then, what are these rules you speak of, where are they laid down and where can I read them ? I think we should all know what the ground rules are...
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Post by eggman on Nov 1, 2009 19:41:42 GMT 1
Educate me then, what are these rules you speak of, where are they laid down and where can I read them ? I think we should all know what the ground rules are... good for you there are also laws about slander and libel, so calling him a murderer is technically against the law. i wouldnt mention it but you seem keen on the rules
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Nov 1, 2009 19:57:36 GMT 1
I think we should all know what the ground rules are... good for you there are also laws about slander and libel, so calling him a murderer is technically against the law. i wouldnt mention it but you seem keen on the rules I never called him a murderer . What I meant was just jeering him/booing him etc.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Nov 1, 2009 20:02:11 GMT 1
I wasnt being arsey, I really would like to know where and what the rules are. Bloke I sit behind may learn something...
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Post by len on Nov 1, 2009 20:08:46 GMT 1
The scumbag deserves any abuse that goes his way. He is an arrogant man who I simply hate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2009 21:11:46 GMT 1
I'm a firm believer that once you've done your time you deserve a second chance; people can change and they should be given the opportunity to do so.
If I met someone walking up the street who had done what Lee Hughes had done I wouldn't shout abuse at him. However, Hughes is in the public eye and as yet, I don't know any examples of where he has shown remorse of what he did. For this I'd fully expect him to be abused by opposition fans.
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