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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2009 7:18:28 GMT 1
If he has been sold, I hope the club will offer refunds to those who have purchased season tickets because I shall be at the front of the queue...... Yep, cos i only bought mine to watch grant holt, nothing to do with shrewsbury town fc, i just want to watch grant holt. holty is superman No big deal imo. good striker but we have had better for less.
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Post by nicko on Jul 23, 2009 7:32:01 GMT 1
People bought their season tickets believing that as he is on a 3 year contract Grant Holt would be at the club, thus giving us a realistic chance of promotion. If you paid for a Rolls Royce and were delivered a Ford Escort you would quite rightly expect a refund. We have paid for a commodity that has now diminished in quality and we should be offered our money back. As a season ticket holder I would like to state that I did not buy my season on the basis of Holt being on a 3 year contract. Can't speak for the other 2,700 whatever odd mind.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jul 23, 2009 7:42:51 GMT 1
People bought their season tickets believing that as he is on a 3 year contract Grant Holt would be at the club, thus giving us a realistic chance of promotion. If you paid for a Rolls Royce and were delivered a Ford Escort you would quite rightly expect a refund. We have paid for a commodity that has now diminished in quality and we should be offered our money back. As a season ticket holder I would like to state that I did not buy my season on the basis of Holt being on a 3 year contract. Can't speak for the other 2,700 whatever odd mind. No me nether, but I bought on the basis the club would try and do well this season. Selling your top scorer ain't a good ****ing start!
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Post by nicko on Jul 23, 2009 7:56:03 GMT 1
As a season ticket holder I would like to state that I did not buy my season on the basis of Holt being on a 3 year contract. Can't speak for the other 2,700 whatever odd mind. No me nether, but I bought on the basis the club would try and do well this season. Selling your top scorer ain't a good ****ing start! I bought it on the basis that it was good value at £12.50 a game, or 7.5 free games, or a third of home games free, whichever way you wish to look at it. Holt hasn't gone yet. There are a dozen things that can go wrong with the alleged transfer. Lets just wait and see.
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Post by barrynic on Jul 23, 2009 8:20:06 GMT 1
Holt is a great striker but he is no John McGinley, come on lads get real.
If the Chairman allows Simmo to use ALL the money and that is the real issue we will be a stronger overall team, it will allow us to buy a striker and finally replace Davies because whatever the merits of the new players none of them will score as many goals as Ben.
If he does not, then he deserves the wrath of B & A because then we will know the extent of his ambition.
The worry for me is that Grant goes, we sign a couple of players.........but end up a weaker team than the one Peters to Wembley and we have gone backwards about 4 years.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jul 23, 2009 8:28:53 GMT 1
I cant fathom why it would be a disgrace to sell a player for a decent sum.
Regardless of the 525k or so on offer.
So what do the Club do - keep him for another year ? Will his value go up even further ? Will we go up with this one "superstar" and 10 mortals in May...?
Or take a chance on keeping him for a further 2 years and have him walk like Davies because we can not match his demands.
Or should we sell him now for good money, invest that in 3 good players to give us the greater depth, character and strength of squad.
Holt was good, he is certainly not irreplaceable.
If we get the money and it is invested wisely then we can only gain as a Club.
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Post by PorkyShrew on Jul 23, 2009 8:29:32 GMT 1
this thread is a classic
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Post by shrewblue on Jul 23, 2009 8:29:33 GMT 1
In a nutshell as and when Holt goes for big money you understand it has to be an offer the club cant refuse!
But this should be used as a springboard to sign players like Benson and Bishop as well as a winger like Colbeck that will improve the side....bear in mind its not just transfer fees we have to consider the cost of salaries and £450K does not go far.........
Proof of the pudding is in the eating if we lose Holt and replace him with players who ultimately lead to mid table mediocrity there will be a judgement day! On the plus side if the new players knit into a hard working team who gain promotion the chairman/board and manager will be the best thing since sliced bread.........that is life not many of us go to our daily work to be judged by thousands of people and under public scrutiny its a hard life running a football club!
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Post by daveshrew on Jul 23, 2009 8:43:57 GMT 1
My guess is that you will be first in the que to buy your season ticket back when the Holt tranfer money has been spent and people are getting exited again... Every player has his price and that price has obviously been met. Simmo has said we dont 'need' to sell for finacial reasons but at the end of the day when a big offer comes in for a player you have to ask weather we will be better off as a club with the money, or with Grant Holt, It seems in this case the money is more valuble. If Holty goes which by all acouts he will, we need to look forward and move on. He can be replaced, mybe not by a similar player but maybe this gives us chance to reshape the team. The way some people have reacted is as if the club in about to go into liquidation.. We should count ourselves lucky, we could be Chester fans! Superb post.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 23, 2009 8:51:03 GMT 1
Over rated, over paid, over weight and over the hill - is he really as good as we think he is? Take away the penalties and a freak 5 goals then consider his performance in the last third of the season - was he really that good?..................... Well I've convinced myself and feel alot better now Dont worry Roland knows what he's doing look how he's steered us during his reign as Chairman - our finances are looking great pity we've got to start yet another season in the 4th tier Promotion or stand down i say
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Post by Steve Rogerson on Jul 23, 2009 8:57:28 GMT 1
First, Holt is our main goal scorer. Selling him on the back of losing Davies and Humphrey means we have a severely weakened team compared with last season. And last season we were not good enough to go up (without others having points deducted we wouldn't have even made the playoffs). I was hoping the summer would see us strengthening the squad. To me it already looks like it has been made weaker; losing Holt will make it weaker still.
Secondly, people have said that if we get good money for Holt we can spend it on other good players. When? The season is very close to starting. We have already had the bonding training session in Spain. The pre-season matches are happening that allow the team to get used to playing with each other. We are running out of time for bringing in new players and getting them bedded in before the Burton match.
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Post by shrewed54 on Jul 23, 2009 9:06:57 GMT 1
Exhalted Steve
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 23, 2009 9:09:41 GMT 1
First, Holt is our main goal scorer. Selling him on the back of losing Davies and Humphrey means we have a severely weakened team compared with last season. And last season we were not good enough to go up (without others having points deducted we wouldn't have even made the playoffs). I was hoping the summer would see us strengthening the squad. To me it already looks like it has been made weaker; losing Holt will make it weaker still. Secondly, people have said that if we get good money for Holt we can spend it on other good players. When? The season is very close to starting. We have already had the bonding training session in Spain. The pre-season matches are happening that allow the team to get used to playing with each other. We are running out of time for bringing in new players and getting them bedded in before the Burton match. That's the first sensible post that has been added to this thread for sometime. Holt is vital to a realistic promotion challenge, IF he goes it won't only be the fans who are let down it will be the new players who have come into the club thinking he would be leading the charge.....
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Post by Fingers on Jul 23, 2009 9:19:59 GMT 1
If we can reinvest then great however the season is drawing ever closer and is two weeks and two friendlies enough for new players to bed in?
With us already being perceived as a club with money, this will add to it so will we experience inflated transfer fees?
What is for sure is that we are going to finish in the bottom half of the table if we do not make any new signings before the start of the season.
In Simmo we trust.
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Post by Minor on Jul 23, 2009 9:22:26 GMT 1
First, Holt is our main goal scorer. Selling him on the back of losing Davies and Humphrey means we have a severely weakened team compared with last season. And last season we were not good enough to go up (without others having points deducted we wouldn't have even made the playoffs). I was hoping the summer would see us strengthening the squad. To me it already looks like it has been made weaker; losing Holt will make it weaker still. Secondly, people have said that if we get good money for Holt we can spend it on other good players. When? The season is very close to starting. We have already had the bonding training session in Spain. The pre-season matches are happening that allow the team to get used to playing with each other. We are running out of time for bringing in new players and getting them bedded in before the Burton match. And also by now all Clubs will have virtually assembled their squads and will be reluctant to sell anybody unless it is for stupid money, so inevitably it will be an out of contract player who either isn't good enough or demanding too high a wage packet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2009 9:22:48 GMT 1
What is for sure is that we are going to finish in the bottom half of the table if we do not make any new signings before the start of the season. For sure?
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Post by JohnG on Jul 23, 2009 9:31:21 GMT 1
I find it quite comical that some people are screaming out for a season ticket refund! As others have stated your season ticket is to watch Shrewsbury Town as a team, because it's your club, not one player!
It will be disappointing if Holt goes, but no matter what you think we will still have to sell players, we are not this 'massive' club some think we are! If the figures are true, it is a very good profit on a player we have had for only 1 season.
Shrewed - Davies and Humphrey left the club through their own decisions, get over it!
I am sure there will be a replacement lined up and others aswell.
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Post by penza on Jul 23, 2009 9:31:32 GMT 1
4 Teams will get promoted from this division.. None of them will have Grant Holt in there team. Now.. we will have more transfer money than most, as of now and that IMO means that we shouldnt be saying were going to have a bad season just because we dont have Grant Holt, 23 teams in League Two coped without Grant Holt last season and 8 of them managed more points than us.
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 23, 2009 9:37:22 GMT 1
I find it quite comical that some people are screaming out for a season ticket refund! As others have stated your season ticket is to watch Shrewsbury Town as a team, because it's your club, not one player! It will be disappointing if Holt goes, but no matter what you think we will still have to sell players, we are not this 'massive' club some think we are! If the figures are true, it is a very good profit on a player we have had for only 1 season. Shrewed - Davies and Humphrey left the club through their own decisions, get over it! I am sure there will be a replacement lined up and others aswell. I'm pleased you think it's comical that some people are calling for a season ticket refund if Holt leaves the club - you must have more money than sense. Most of us bought our season tickets under the misconception that the board were at last showing some ambition - Holt is the top scorer in league 2, if he is sold then the club have a moral and ethical duty to offer season ticket refunds to those who want them.
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Post by Fingers on Jul 23, 2009 9:42:30 GMT 1
What is for sure is that we are going to finish in the bottom half of the table if we do not make any new signings before the start of the season. For sure? I'd stick myt mortgage* on it. *I actually haven't got a mortgage so it's not that bad a bet. If we struggled to finish 7th with teams with points deductions what will happen with our top striker, top midfielder, best goalkeeper and two significant other players leaving the club, half of the team has gone and not been replaced with the same quality - as of writting.
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Post by Minor on Jul 23, 2009 9:49:25 GMT 1
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Post by JohnG on Jul 23, 2009 9:49:43 GMT 1
I find it quite comical that some people are screaming out for a season ticket refund! As others have stated your season ticket is to watch Shrewsbury Town as a team, because it's your club, not one player! It will be disappointing if Holt goes, but no matter what you think we will still have to sell players, we are not this 'massive' club some think we are! If the figures are true, it is a very good profit on a player we have had for only 1 season. Shrewed - Davies and Humphrey left the club through their own decisions, get over it! I am sure there will be a replacement lined up and others aswell. I'm pleased you think it's comical that some people are calling for a season ticket refund if Holt leaves the club - you must have more money than sense. Most of us bought our season tickets under the misconception that the board were at last showing some ambition - Holt is the top scorer in league 2, if he is sold then the club have a moral and ethical duty to offer season ticket refunds to those who want them. No! I just have sense! When I renewed my season ticket no promises were made about who would be playing this season. The club have no moral or ethical duty to refund season tickets and why should they?! Let's see what happens. This money could be spent very well on a good 20 goal striker and strengthening the other weak areas of the squad.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 23, 2009 9:50:49 GMT 1
Its B&A at its best this…superb!! Why are we having these discussions, he’s not even gone yet has he? Can’t we wait till its confirmed before having a moan? Anyhows, maybe Norwich will do you a deal on a season ticket if he ends up there, part exchange for yer Town one…
Only joking, I can understand why some folk are upset and disappointed. However, one thing, let’s not level any criticism at the club for having no ambition or desire to get us promoted until we’ve looked to reinvest any money we receive.
We had Holt last season and were the 9th best side in the division, there were better sides above us who didn’t spend that amount on a single player…so I can’t understand why anyone would think the success of our season rests on whether Holt plays for us or not. It clearly doesn’t looking at his one season with the club (thus far)...
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 23, 2009 9:52:16 GMT 1
2 weeks ago they were saying that the clubs finances were in such a healthy state that we don't have to sell our players - Grant Holt's not for sale was the message to the fans.......
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Post by Mr T on Jul 23, 2009 10:01:57 GMT 1
Holt is a great striker but he is no John McGinley, come on lads get real. Absolutely spot on. McGinley was the best striker I've seen for us in my 22 years of watching. I'd probably have Carl Griffiths and Wayne Clarke over Holt too. Not saying Holt's a bad player, but compared to players who've gone in the past I'm not sure it's going to be so much of a problem. If he goes for £450 - 500k, that's got to be one of the largest fee's we've received in our history, and it's for a 28 year old - not a promising youngster like Joe Hart who is going to be around for 15 years or more. I can only think that Hart and Walton have gone for more. Think Carl Griffiths and David Hughes went for about £450,000
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Post by Belgravia Court Shrew on Jul 23, 2009 10:02:19 GMT 1
Fact is we were 9th best even with Holt in the team, imagine were we would have been without him last season!
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 23, 2009 10:03:14 GMT 1
So much for contracts........
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 23, 2009 10:05:03 GMT 1
Radio Shropshire reporting this at 10am
"we understand that Grant Holt will be joining Norwich City for a fee of 400k"
Just went out...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2009 10:10:00 GMT 1
indeed so much for contracts
without one davies left for nothing
with one Holt is leaving for the best part of half a mill by all accounts.
So God bless the contracts
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 23, 2009 10:11:16 GMT 1
On tonight's evidence the team will struggle to match Holt's 20 goals from last season between them. The club must offer a refund to those who purchased in good faith........ I imagine we would still score a fair few of his 10 penalties.
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