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Post by Shrewd Operator on Jul 6, 2009 11:53:35 GMT 1
With confirmed interest in him from a higher league club, and with him not being part of the Spain trip it seems increasingly likely that he has played his last game for us. Just a question of whether Blackpool are prepared to offer us enough, or to go to Tribunal. Of course, if they're not, then it puts Hump in a slightly difficult position, but I can't imagine a Tribunal coming up with a figure much more than 50K so I would have thought Blackpool would take the risk. Is that definate that he is not in spain ? First i've heard of this.
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Post by shrewblue on Jul 6, 2009 11:55:40 GMT 1
50k would be good business and cash to go out and find a decent wide man on a free and pay his wages for a while
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Post by Carter on Jul 6, 2009 11:59:56 GMT 1
I wouldn't lose sleep if he went...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2009 12:15:38 GMT 1
On the other hand, if we were to let go a midfielder who can score double figures you would be left wondering... It doesn't really matter how many Davies scored last season Sean, - what matters is whether the midfield as a whole can score more than they did last year. I haven't bothered to look it up but I bet that wasn't much more than about 20 - so all we are asking for is all of our midfield to chip in with 5 or so each - and to operate as a more effective unit to support Holt and his new 10-goal striking partner(s?). Whether we've achieved that, time will tell, but part of the reason that rest of our midfield didn't contribute as much last year as they should have, might well have been because they were covering for Davies. Anyway....this was a thread about Hump.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2009 12:16:11 GMT 1
With confirmed interest in him from a higher league club, and with him not being part of the Spain trip it seems increasingly likely that he has played his last game for us. Just a question of whether Blackpool are prepared to offer us enough, or to go to Tribunal. Of course, if they're not, then it puts Hump in a slightly difficult position, but I can't imagine a Tribunal coming up with a figure much more than 50K so I would have thought Blackpool would take the risk. Is that definate that he is not in spain ? First i've heard of this. Yes, Link------> Star.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jul 6, 2009 12:55:16 GMT 1
25K
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Post by Shrewd Operator on Jul 6, 2009 12:57:51 GMT 1
Thanks for the link, would be disappointed if he left but Robinson is a natural replacement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2009 13:32:06 GMT 1
Is that what Blackpool bid Windsor, or is that just your view on what it would take..?
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Post by venceremos on Jul 6, 2009 14:03:40 GMT 1
I'll be very sorry if he goes. With the added pace of some of the new signings I think this could be a really big season for him because the signs are we'll be playing in a style that suits him better. He's improved every season and is already one of the best wingers in the division - we won't replace him as easily as some seem to think.
A bit hit and miss? Sure - show me a winger at this level (and higher) that isn't. Goes with the position. If I were Blackpool and could get him for £50k, I'd do it in an instant.
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Post by shrewed54 on Jul 6, 2009 16:34:46 GMT 1
On the other hand, if we were to let go a midfielder who can score double figures you would be left wondering... It doesn't really matter how many Davies scored last season Sean, - what matters is whether the midfield as a whole can score more than they did last year. I haven't bothered to look it up but I bet that wasn't much more than about 20 - so all we are asking for is all of our midfield to chip in with 5 or so each - and to operate as a more effective unit to support Holt and his new 10-goal striking partner(s?). Whether we've achieved that, time will tell, but part of the reason that rest of our midfield didn't contribute as much last year as they should have, might well have been because they were covering for Davies. Anyway....this was a thread about Hump..... Vic last season 24 goals were scored by midfield players and 15 by Holts striking partners. If you look at the scoring record of a possible midfield quartet I doubt based upon that evidence that they are likely to get anywhere near 24 goals during the season. Humphrey 0.03 goals per game - 2 goals in the season Disley 0.12 goals per game - 6 goals a season Murray 0.07 goals per game - 4 goals a season Neal 0.06 goals per game - 3 goals per season I know this is history but it is the only was you can view it unless you have blind faith. I also think it is insulting to suggest that Ben Davies was carried by the rest of the midfield.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2009 17:04:05 GMT 1
It doesn't really matter how many Davies scored last season Sean, - what matters is whether the midfield as a whole can score more than they did last year. I haven't bothered to look it up but I bet that wasn't much more than about 20 - so all we are asking for is all of our midfield to chip in with 5 or so each - and to operate as a more effective unit to support Holt and his new 10-goal striking partner(s?). Whether we've achieved that, time will tell, but part of the reason that rest of our midfield didn't contribute as much last year as they should have, might well have been because they were covering for Davies. Anyway....this was a thread about Hump..... Vic last season 24 goals were scored by midfield players and 15 by Holts striking partners. If you look at the scoring record of a possible midfield quartet I doubt based upon that evidence that they are likely to get anywhere near 24 goals during the season. Humphrey 0.03 goals per game - 2 goals in the season Disley 0.12 goals per game - 6 goals a season Murray 0.07 goals per game - 4 goals a season Neal 0.06 goals per game - 3 goals per season I know this is history but it is the only was you can view it unless you have blind faith. I also think it is insulting to suggest that Ben Davies was carried by the rest of the midfield. We're in danger of having the same conversation on 2 threads Ed!! Dunno where you get 24 from - my quick look at shrewsweb indicated less, but I will concede it was a quick look (Hump, Mac, Murray, Worall, Leslie total about 7 between them). I didn't say "carried" and apologies if that insults you (although I can't conceive how/why it would). What I said was "covering" - perhaps a better word is compensating - and by which I meant, playing a certain way to allow Davies the free reign he has always needed to be most effective. Which means you can't necessarily judge their goal-scoring records from last year. Obviously Disley and Neal are slightly different cases.
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Post by shrewed54 on Jul 6, 2009 17:07:56 GMT 1
I think the ones you are missing is Sherriff, Thornton and Sigundsson
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2009 17:14:15 GMT 1
I think the ones you are missing is Sherriff, Thornton and Sigundsson Fair point - forgot about them - but if we include all the additional players (inc loans) who will play in the middle for us next season, it will probably bring the average per player down to less than 4. Eminently achievable. On another point you made above about history and blind faith - yes history is your reference point if things are done the same way in the future - but I'm rather hoping Simpson will be changing what we do. Will it work? Who knows. Ask me again in November.
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Post by Steve Rogerson on Jul 6, 2009 18:59:03 GMT 1
Humphrey is one of the most exciting players we have got at the moment. It will be a real loss to see him go.
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Post by shrew4life on Jul 6, 2009 19:08:13 GMT 1
Humphrey is one of the most exciting players we have got at the moment. It will be a real loss to see him go. Says a lot about the rest of the squad then.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jul 7, 2009 0:24:43 GMT 1
Humphrey is a much improved player, no doubt. He shows a good variation of crosses and has excellent pace. If a full back can handle pace though Humphrey can't get past him and fades out of the game. This happened in the play-off final. Simpson then switched him to the left and this meant that he had to check back to make a cross - obviously nullifying his pace again.
So the approach by a Championship club for his services absolutely astonishes me.
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Post by soops on Jul 7, 2009 0:58:02 GMT 1
What happened to Aston Villa wanting him?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2009 6:45:09 GMT 1
Humphrey runs the risk of not being a major part of Simmo's plans by holding out on his contract. If I were the manager I would have a dim view of his level of commitment to the club. He could become out in the cold. Ben Herd was isolated for whatever reason last season. He is not the only one. If your face doesn't fit................
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jul 7, 2009 8:01:39 GMT 1
Take the ££££££££ and get in someone who can play football instead of someone who can run fast.
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Post by shrewed54 on Jul 7, 2009 9:56:12 GMT 1
Take the ££££££££ and get in someone who can play football instead of someone who can run fast. To think its over 3 weeks since I've seen Heavenly's comments on Humphrey, reminds me must go away more often.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jul 7, 2009 9:59:44 GMT 1
I been away to shrewed and it shows this ountry has all i need as when i was in wales they had higher tempretures than orlando and tenerife and the fishing was great too.
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Post by hello on Jul 7, 2009 10:09:48 GMT 1
Humphrey runs the risk of not being a major part of Simmo's plans by holding out on his contract. If I were the manager I would have a dim view of his level of commitment to the club. He could become out in the cold. Ben Herd was isolated for whatever reason last season. He is not the only one. If your face doesn't fit................ spot on. i'd feel exactly the same if i was the manager. he obviously feels he's too good for the club so he really will have egg on his face if he comes back to us to sign his contract. i'd find it highly amusing if simmo retracts his contract and he ends up playing for someone in the conference next season.
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Post by shrewed54 on Jul 7, 2009 10:18:51 GMT 1
I been away to shrewed and it shows this ountry has all i need as when i was in wales they had higher tempretures than orlando and tenerife and the fishing was great too. Wales isn't part of England. Glad you had a good time.
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Post by shrewed54 on Jul 7, 2009 10:21:25 GMT 1
Humphrey runs the risk of not being a major part of Simmo's plans by holding out on his contract. If I were the manager I would have a dim view of his level of commitment to the club. He could become out in the cold. Ben Herd was isolated for whatever reason last season. He is not the only one. If your face doesn't fit................ spot on. i'd feel exactly the same if i was the manager. he obviously feels he's too good for the club so he really will have egg on his face if he comes back to us to sign his contract. i'd find it highly amusing if simmo retracts his contract and he ends up playing for someone in the conference next season. That's right the club should throw money away just to spite a player. What a way to run a business. Don't you think Blackpool might take him if he was a free agent.
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Post by Scarecrow on Jul 8, 2009 20:52:30 GMT 1
This made me laugh because I went to Blackpool. Got home and went on this board and laughed.
Some man was watching the stand being built and said: "We're aiming for the premiership"
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Post by stainesr on Jul 9, 2009 13:53:22 GMT 1
what a load of tosh this thread is. everyone used to complain about Aiston because all he had was tricks and no end product. then we have hump who has bags of pace and can produce inch perfect crosses when on form. what about GH goal against Dagenham? Or all those chances Hibbo/Holt etc blazed over the bar last season from his crosses? Give the lad a break, he is still young and can learn. I personally would love him to stay next season.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 9, 2009 18:38:38 GMT 1
what a load of tosh this thread is. everyone used to complain about Aiston because all he had was tricks and no end product. then we have hump who has bags of pace and can produce inch perfect crosses when on form. what about GH goal against Dagenham? Or all those chances Hibbo/Holt etc blazed over the bar last season from his crosses? Give the lad a break, he is still young and can learn. I personally would love him to stay next season. ... and Holt's equaliser at Gillingham. Agree with this. We'll miss Humphrey if he goes and he'll continue to improve elsewhere, which certainly won't be at a lower level than L2. There are plenty of very ordinary wingers with no real potential in L1 and L2 and we'd probably end up bringing in one of those to replace him. Is that what people want?
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Post by Liam on Jul 10, 2009 9:29:36 GMT 1
It's certainly true that, whatever his faults, Humphrey has more potential than most in this League and therefore wouldn't be as easy to replace as some people seem to think. There are a lot of crap wingers out there, and it's hard to see why a good one would want to come here without us paying out a substantial sum.
However, I'm not amused by the way he's dragging his feet on this, and can't really fault the club for leaving him out of the Spanish trip and planning for the season without him, tbh.
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