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Post by shrewslander on Oct 2, 2006 22:53:45 GMT 1
Personally if the option was given to have blue & white or just blue then if amber is really not an option then I'd just go with blue, white will look dull & dirty very quickly
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Post by ianwhit on Oct 2, 2006 23:04:02 GMT 1
[quote author=londonshrew board=general thread=1159806262 post=1159825501 All these comments defending the seat colour of white makes me think you know something we don't Ian [/quote] nope, just last week was speaking to people about it and they were looking at different seat suppliers... either they were telling me the truth or lying.. i think the actual words from the club that blue and amber would be part of the clubs colours ongoing into the future, it didn't just say that it would be those two colours or how they would be used?
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Post by WindsorShrew on Oct 3, 2006 7:35:46 GMT 1
Whilst were on the subject is there any reason why the Club have not yet informed us (its fans) of what the new ground, and stands will be called ?
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Post by mysticmurray on Oct 3, 2006 8:10:29 GMT 1
Whilst were on the subject is there any reason why the Club have not yet informed us (its fans) of what the new ground, and stands will be called ? I think we should call the new ground the 'House of Whingers'
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Post by blueandamber on Oct 3, 2006 8:12:02 GMT 1
the special dye that is used in amber seats contains saffron which adds considerably to the cost therefore white is a much cheaper option, probably saving in the region of £10 per seat. www.Shrewsburytown.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewMeadowDetail/0,,10443~895274,00.html Quote from Sayfritz "We won't be penny pinching, on it and in the right areas we will have the right levels of finish and fit." (Very last paragraph, below the image) Regarding the New Meadow.... So price shouldn't be an issue, if it is, that statement is balls.
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Post by Carter on Oct 3, 2006 8:16:56 GMT 1
the special dye that is used in amber seats contains saffron which adds considerably to the cost therefore white is a much cheaper option, probably saving in the region of £10 per seat. www.Shrewsburytown.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewMeadowDetail/0,,10443~895274,00.html Quote from Sayfritz "We won't be penny pinching, on it and in the right areas we will have the right levels of finish and fit." (Very last paragraph, below the image) Regarding the New Meadow.... So price shouldn't be an issue, if it is, that statement is balls. Agree - 200-300 seats spelling out SHREWS or STFC is hardly going to break the bank. This is a one in a 100 year chance to leave a legacy for the club let's hope they all they can to make sure it's a suitable legacy...
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Post by Salop_Ian on Oct 3, 2006 8:48:37 GMT 1
I belong the to Simon Inglis school that regards patterns in seats (be it logos, letters, words, sponsors name or logo, Tom Finney’s face) as being rather tacky. Why do we need STFC etched into the seats? Is it so we don’t forget where we are? “Good grief I thought I was at the Deva stadium for a minute!” No one ever paints terraces in club colours, or spells out the club’s name on them.
I wouldn’t have white seats, as it doesn’t take long for them to look really grubby. If the reason is that they are cheaper it would be false economy, as they would need to be replaced more frequently.
All blue seats would be my preference, with the aisles and steps painted orange for stewarding purposes. That would give the desired effect.
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Post by monkeechicken on Oct 3, 2006 9:01:01 GMT 1
I belong the to Simon Inglis school that regards patterns in seats (be it logos, letters, words, sponsors name or logo, Tom Finney’s face) as being rather tacky. Why do we need STFC etched into the seats? Is it so we don’t forget where we are? “Good grief I thought I was at the Deva stadium for a minute!” No one ever paints terraces in club colours, or spells out the club’s name on them. I wouldn’t have white seats, as it doesn’t take long for them to look really grubby. If the reason is that they are cheaper it would be false economy, as they would need to be replaced more frequently. All blue seats would be my preference, with the aisles and steps painted orange for stewarding purposes. That would give the desired effect. sounds a sensible idea
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Post by Salop_Ian on Oct 3, 2006 9:08:45 GMT 1
Of course who’s not to say that if the stand is sponsored, the sponsor will pay to have the seats in their corporate colours with a patterns showing their name/logo.
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Post by salopia1982 on Oct 3, 2006 9:12:23 GMT 1
Can I paint my own seat when I buy my season ticket?
Just a thought
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Post by salopia1982 on Oct 3, 2006 9:14:03 GMT 1
From what keith was saying on radio shropshire saturday a name for the stadium is a while off yet, and i reckon will be a sponsor's name
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 3, 2006 9:45:51 GMT 1
From a sample of 576 fans on a matchday 84.4% said the team's colours were blue and amber, 10.1% didn't mind, and 5.5% said blue and white.
Be assured that whatever seat colours they decide - if Blue and Amber Fanzine is not happy we will provide you with a methodology of changing your seat colour to blue or amber without causing long term structural damage to new meadow or being convicted of vandalism.
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Post by ianwhit on Oct 3, 2006 9:58:07 GMT 1
From a sample of 576 fans on a matchday 84.4% said the team's colours were blue and amber, 10.1% didn't mind, and 5.5% said blue and white. of a crowd of 4000? so 25%?
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Post by burtonshrew on Oct 3, 2006 10:02:16 GMT 1
From a sample of 576 fans on a matchday 84.4% said the team's colours were blue and amber, 10.1% didn't mind, and 5.5% said blue and white. of a crowd of 4000? so 25%? Ian, you can't criticise representative sampling - it's how we vote, how tv figures are decided, how marketing campaigns are run, it's the recognised standard methodology for consumer opinion - if you've got a problem with that ask your new guy for a better way, be surprised if he gives one.
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Post by ianwhit on Oct 3, 2006 10:12:15 GMT 1
of a crowd of 4000? so 25%? Ian, you can't criticise representative sampling - it's how we vote, how tv figures are decided, how marketing campaigns are run, it's the recognised standard methodology for consumer opinion - if you've got a problem with that ask your new guy for a better way, be surprised if he gives one. where have i criticised?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 3, 2006 10:16:16 GMT 1
Give me a better sample and I will believe your findings.
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Post by mysticmurray on Oct 3, 2006 10:19:26 GMT 1
Let's have transparent seats
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Post by burtonshrew on Oct 3, 2006 10:28:30 GMT 1
Ian, you can't criticise representative sampling - it's how we vote, how tv figures are decided, how marketing campaigns are run, it's the recognised standard methodology for consumer opinion - if you've got a problem with that ask your new guy for a better way, be surprised if he gives one. where have i criticised? Saying that it's only 25% of a crowd of 4000 is a criticism and you know it. It's not 25%, it's 84.4% and that's that, end of story. You can't base it on literally everybody as you'd only need one person to refuse to answer questions and you'd be back to representative sampling.
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Post by mysticmurray on Oct 3, 2006 10:39:40 GMT 1
74.2% of people think that this thread has become ridiculous.
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Post by ianwhit on Oct 3, 2006 10:47:26 GMT 1
Saying that it's only 25% of a crowd of 4000 is a criticism and you know it. It's not 25%, it's 84.4% and that's that, end of story. You can't base it on literally everybody as you'd only need one person to refuse to answer questions and you'd be back to representative sampling. it's not a critismn it's a point, if you take it as a critisimn then that's down to your personal way of taking things.
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Post by der kaiser on Oct 3, 2006 10:49:59 GMT 1
At the Duck Shed they are Blue.
Lets have all Blue with the steps painted Amber.
If the ground is full then it won't matter what colour seats we have.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 3, 2006 13:38:28 GMT 1
From my time buying plastics I remember that black or white were the cheapest colours. But I don't remember where amber comes in in the cost scale.
As masterbatch (dye for plastic) is added at between 3% and 5% of total volume the differential is not a big issue.
However, amber is a colour that tends to be affected by UV and will fade quicker than blue or white.
The suggestion of all blue seats with amber gangways is a good 'un.
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Post by Fingers on Oct 3, 2006 13:49:41 GMT 1
Im liking the Blue seats and amber gangways, especially as the no stopping zones are usually painted yellow, make them amber as well and jobs done!
Also as correctly pointe dout if the ground is full it wont matter.
The only reason people want Blue and Amber is that 'it will look nice' who cares what it looks like lets just get playing on it.
Oh and of course no Blue and white.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Oct 3, 2006 13:55:51 GMT 1
the special dye that is used in amber seats contains saffron which adds considerably to the cost therefore white is a much cheaper option, probably saving in the region of £10 per seat. Supporters that partake in the "buy a brick scheme" could and should quite easliy cover the extra cost.
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Post by fac63 on Oct 3, 2006 14:41:41 GMT 1
Ian, ever though about being a politician?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2006 14:53:29 GMT 1
Being absolutely honest here, I think Whits just loves winding people up.
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Post by fac63 on Oct 3, 2006 14:58:21 GMT 1
Hence, the question!
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Post by CuyahogaBlue on Oct 3, 2006 15:00:34 GMT 1
of a crowd of 4000? so 25%? Ian, you can't criticise representative sampling - it's how we vote, how tv figures are decided, how marketing campaigns are run, it's the recognised standard methodology for consumer opinion - if you've got a problem with that ask your new guy for a better way, be surprised if he gives one. Voting is not done by representative sampling - voting is done by those who are committed to a particular party. I see no detailed explanation of the sampling methodology used to determine the figures quoted by TBH. Could it be that the 500+ respondents are the hard-core Salop fans, season ticket holders, B&A fanzine buyers, message board posters between the ages of 15 and 35? And , this would beg the question of which group is being sampled? Shrewsbury residents? Shrewsbury fans who go to a couple of games? Committed fans who will answer a few questions? While the overwhelming majority of opinion on this board is that Blue and Amber needs to be incorporated into the new stadium, it would be dangerous to generalize our views to a larger population. Don't you just love statistics ;D
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Post by ianwhit on Oct 3, 2006 15:08:58 GMT 1
Ian, ever though about being a politician? god no, i tend to always tell the truth even in my posts..... and i'm not really a wind up merchant, i just tend to see a different view to a lot of people and am not easily influenced to agree with the majority..
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Post by burtonshrew on Oct 3, 2006 15:46:00 GMT 1
Ian, you can't criticise representative sampling - it's how we vote, how tv figures are decided, how marketing campaigns are run, it's the recognised standard methodology for consumer opinion - if you've got a problem with that ask your new guy for a better way, be surprised if he gives one. Voting is not done by representative sampling - voting is done by those who are committed to a particular party. I see no detailed explanation of the sampling methodology used to determine the figures quoted by TBH. Could it be that the 500+ respondents are the hard-core Salop fans, season ticket holders, B&A fanzine buyers, message board posters between the ages of 15 and 35? And , this would beg the question of which group is being sampled? Shrewsbury residents? Shrewsbury fans who go to a couple of games? Committed fans who will answer a few questions? While the overwhelming majority of opinion on this board is that Blue and Amber needs to be incorporated into the new stadium, it would be dangerous to generalize our views to a larger population. Don't you just love statistics ;D Psht. I'm sure it was all gone into at the time. Interested what you say about voting, disagree that it's not a representative sample - it's not open to everybody (merely those of a certain age) and without it being compulsory that everyone votes how can it be anything other than a representation of a group of people's views (in this case, the group is those that can be bothered to go and vote). Otherwise how else can the Prime Minister come to power when more people didn't vote for him than did? Anyway, think that's one of those discussions for another thread on another day!
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