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Post by ianwhit on Jan 4, 2004 20:36:10 GMT 1
anything that's been posted over the last few days that needs reading?
has everyone calmed down now after letting off steam or is it stil the end of the world?
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Jan 4, 2004 20:37:26 GMT 1
To be on the safe side you'd better read the lot
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2004 20:37:59 GMT 1
You need a crash helmet ready Ian, careful what you say
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Jan 4, 2004 20:39:23 GMT 1
Nothing at all Ian. Although if it were left to some on here half the team would go, all the management and coaches, most of the board and JP is a prat
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 4, 2004 20:39:53 GMT 1
sorry haven't got time to read them all, also all the negative s**te would probably push me over the edge.
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Post by texmexshrew on Jan 4, 2004 20:53:53 GMT 1
any chance of replying to my email whitters?!! I miss you..... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by nathanialjcatbasket on Jan 4, 2004 21:13:35 GMT 1
Go for it Ian read them all,some great threads that the powers that be should be interested in....And not all negative
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 4, 2004 21:45:39 GMT 1
Just the usual stuff Ian - it's never made a difference before so it won't now.
Negative? ah yes - could you arrange for your employers to give us something to be positive about - per chance?
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Jan 4, 2004 21:55:15 GMT 1
Directions were spot on Ian ;D However i'm digusted that you did'nt tell us how cheap the drinks were in there club house, did look to buy you a pint but could'nt see a town fan with a great big orange face and black nose
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Post by welshshrew5 on Jan 4, 2004 21:59:24 GMT 1
Nah, better off just reading the ShrewWeb message board. It'll be quicker.
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Post by R6ix on Jan 5, 2004 0:09:09 GMT 1
good post sean? at the end of the day all whitters posts are dead end replys that just link back to shrews web storys?
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 5, 2004 1:02:23 GMT 1
good post sean? at the end of the day all whitters posts are dead end replys that just link back to shrews web storys? that'll be becuase your not logged in. positives, good string of results let down by a s**te performance at dagenham. playoff postion, games in hand, knowledge that all isn't going to plan and jimmy's acknowledged that and said it will be addressed. or you could look at it the sean way, that we are all doomed and might as well end it all now.
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 5, 2004 1:03:48 GMT 1
Directions were spot on Ian ;D However i'm digusted that you did'nt tell us how cheap the drinks were in there club house, did look to buy you a pint but could'nt see a town fan with a great big orange face and black nose just look for a big orange coat... i did put in the directions that dagenham adives going to theie bars on site..
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 5, 2004 14:19:19 GMT 1
Jimmy has said it will be addressed. What else would he say?
There's nothing like rose-coloured glasses Ian. I suggest that performances looked as though they were heading in the right direction - in the sense that we were beginning to see the team compete for 90 minutes. A mimimum requirement in truth, but not something we have consistently seen this season.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jan 5, 2004 20:57:06 GMT 1
What response is expected after we have been humiliated by a part-time team?
The people who post on here are loyal, passionate about the club and aching for some success. We have been on the slide for 15+ years and were hoping for some improvement but the situation now looks the same as last season.
There is confusion, no fight and precious little decent football to give us hope. We struggle to beat the likes of Leigh and Tamworth with their paltry resources.
Why do we have 6 strikers in the squad, 1 left back and no cover at centre back? Why does a 44 year old start in front of an expensively recruited striker? Confused? I am.
Off the pitch the New Meadow saga drags on and it looks like Telford are passing us on the way up.
The management and players should be on their knees to thank fans who are making this the best supported club in the Conference despite the dross that is served up
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 5, 2004 21:01:52 GMT 1
In fact we have precious little cover right across the back four.
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 5, 2004 21:06:33 GMT 1
Ah Ian, performances and results, two very different things those. Removal of specticles may show a few less positives. Good post Dave, spot on in fact. Sean you seem angry about something
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Jan 5, 2004 21:08:17 GMT 1
What response is expected after we have been humiliated by a part-time team? The people who post on here are loyal, passionate about the club and aching for some success. We have been on the slide for 15+ years and were hoping for some improvement but the situation now looks the same as last season. There is confusion, no fight and precious little decent football to give us hope. We struggle to beat the likes of Leigh and Tamworth with their paltry resources. Why do we have 6 strikers in the squad, 1 left back and no cover at centre back? Why does a 44 year old start in front of an expensively recruited striker? Confused? I am. Off the pitch the New Meadow saga drags on and it looks like Telford are passing us on the way up. The management and players should be on their knees to thank fans who are making this the best supported club in the Conference despite the dross that is served up One of the best posts I have read for an age.
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Post by DiggerDave on Jan 5, 2004 21:57:29 GMT 1
Yes ,excellent post,well done Dave
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Post by RuytonShrew on Jan 5, 2004 22:19:34 GMT 1
Indeed. And yet no doubt there will be some who would condemn davefromalty and all who agree with him for being negative or disloyal. And that is wrong.
Ian asks is there anything worth reading on here. I'd say just about every post about the Dagenham game - they sum up the feelings of a fan base that seems set to be let down once more. How many divisions lower must we sink before we can actually look like a good team.
A few lucky results against some god awful teams in this division have papered over the ever widening cracks. Wins at Accrington, Burton, Margate, Northwich and at home versus Tamworth, Forest Green etc were all acieved despite at best mediocre performances.
It is not good enough and it must change.
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Jan 5, 2004 22:32:05 GMT 1
Some excellent stuff in this thread, very concise and to the point, hearts no longer ruling heads, we will no longer have the wool pulled over our eyes by the eternal optimists, realistic views are what are required if the perennial problems of the past are to be properly addressed
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 5, 2004 22:59:49 GMT 1
Ah Ian, performances and results, two very different things those. Removal of specticles may show a few less positives. specticles, nice one... so i take it when we get promoted no one on this thread will be celebrating? spoke to jimmy today and he's still hurt, never seen a performance like that in all his years managing. he knows things didn't go to plan and he's going to do something about it. spoke to a number of the players today and they were disappointed for the result, and for the fans who had to travel to watch it. the thing they did say is you don't become a bad team overnight, they went into the game on the back of three straight wins. three wins followed by one truely awful game. performance and results, i know they are two different things. people were up in arms the other week after we went to margate and won, but performed awfully, you can't win.
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Post by shrewforever on Jan 5, 2004 23:05:07 GMT 1
Norwich Victoria a football team.................please my local netball side would have done them up home and away....................sorry mate, push the defensive stance if you will,your choice, but youre on a loser mate,best of luck................... When do I get that drink you still owe me
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 5, 2004 23:19:05 GMT 1
Norwich Victoria a football team.................please excellent, just the reply i was expecting, and wonder why people call town fans arogant. i'll but you any time but as i said i tend to be working from 1 until 7 on matchdays.
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Post by shrewforever on Jan 5, 2004 23:22:49 GMT 1
Exactly what I expected as well Just my way of saying you are up against some angry fans mate...................Happy new Year..........
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Post by texmexshrew on Jan 5, 2004 23:23:43 GMT 1
he knows things didn't go to plan and he's going to do something about it. . What is JQ's masterplan? Serious question, not meant as a dig at him/the coaching staff/Ian or anyone. Just what are JQ's ideas on the style of football he trying to instill into our squad? Are they performing as he wants? If not why not? I've seen some of the same frailties/faults of last seasons squad this year. What is he doing differently if anything? I'd also suggest that the 3 wins didnt make us a good team in the first place. We are 5th because we arent good enough to be any higher. We were never going to walk this league, but we certainly expect better than we are getting.
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Post by RuytonShrew on Jan 5, 2004 23:26:33 GMT 1
The wins you refer to Ian came from two average performances against Northwich and a shocking one at Margate. Quite how we won the Margate game I don't know, it was hard to tell who had 10 men. And against Northwich, well we did enough to beat probably the division's worst team but we were hardly great.
I'm pleased to hear Jimmy is still hurting about the result at Dagenham but his comments, though all he really could say after such a display, were pretty much the same as what he said after the Stevenage debacle yet there has been no noticable improvement.
I think a lot of people feel they've heard him talk an excellent game but we're yet to see it on the pitch, Hereford at home excepted.
If that's too negative for you then sorry, but it's how I feel...
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Jan 5, 2004 23:26:59 GMT 1
You could always try 'Ask Jimmy' TexMex, but don't hold your breath waiting for a response!
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Post by texmexshrew on Jan 5, 2004 23:33:53 GMT 1
I thought about it PPP, but we've already been told that he isnt keen on answering questions regarding team selection so I dont think he'd like my questioning on tactics/style of play!!! And I'm not going to massage anyones ego asking about how good he was as a player ;D Is the feature still running anyway? I havent seen it for ages.....
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 5, 2004 23:54:41 GMT 1
I think Dave's and Chris' posts sum it up perfectly.
"so i take it when we get promoted no one on this thread will be celebrating?"
A damn stupid comment from Ian.
Jimmy Quinn looks to me to be part of the problem:
He's changed the style of game we played from pre-season.
He's packed the squad with forward players while leaving the squad thin in other areas.
He's changed tactics from game to game.
He's bottled the Rodgers-Cramb forward partnership.
We should be setting our own standards and not let the league we are in set them for us. That we are 5th playing the quality of football we have played is a testament to the poor quality of the majority in it.
On the 27th September 2003 I posted the following on the official site messageboard, has anything really changed in the last three months:
"Jimmy Quinn must realise that the Shrewsbury Town fans are not mugs. We support the team out of a sense of belonging and local pride, but we have also seen a few games and know what is what.
He does himself no favours by repeating one of the mistakes of his predecessor - i.e. sticking with players who think that having a bit of quality means they can ease off and not put in the effort.
Like a lot of us I work long hours - 40 or 50 a week, sometimes more. I do expect players to be able to put their backs into their work for 90 minutes. If they cannot do that, if they do not realise how lucky they are to be paid to play football, then can they please at least have the good grace to give their Shrewsbury Town football shirt to someone else?
It has been said week after week this season that the sign of a good team is one that gets results when its not playing well. Another sign of a good team (and one I prefer) is that it is playing well, and Shrewsbury Town have not played well often enough for long enough so far this season.
From the games I have seen the team perennially commit the following errors:
1)Switch off when they think the game is in the bag. 2)Do not move the ball quick enough into positions from which the opposition can be hurt. 3)Lack width and so play too much in front of teams or try to thread through balls through a forest of legs. 4) Pass poorly, putting team mates under unnecessary pressure.
It's not good enough to win promotion."
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