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Post by Dale on Mar 8, 2004 4:13:14 GMT 1
Also, if it has been made all ticket, get some tickets printed asap so we can sell them at the Leigh game, thanks. Seems a stupid time for the police to change their mind about this now, when they could have just announced it as all ticket last Monday and many tickets would have been sold already by now, I'm hoping this news wont be true.
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Post by MartinB on Mar 8, 2004 9:00:11 GMT 1
If you contact the club Sim, no one will get back to you anyway! You are certainly correct SNFC. I e-mailed Telford last Tuesday and still haven't had a reply.
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Post by MartinB on Mar 8, 2004 9:04:35 GMT 1
what is wrong with making it all ticket but giving shrewsbury the away end (1700), 200 seats (of which you wont get any now - more moaning) and then half the east terrace (600) what about the telford regulars who WANT to stand on the east terrace, now they have to go elsewhere - why should they when its a HOME game Totally agree. I believe it is quite easy to give away fans 2000 tickets. That should have been done and the game made all ticket. Tickets for the home end should have been sold with a clear notice stating, "Any away fans in this area WILL be ejected". That's how other clubs manage general ticket sales through people like Ticketmaster. I know the Town can easily take more than 2000 but I think the same would have happened as with Tamworth with would just have managed to sell our allocation. This is worrying though , agreeing with Telford fans again ;D
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Post by Stevenelsonfanclub on Mar 8, 2004 9:31:36 GMT 1
Martin, Don't hold your breath mate!
I've emailed twice to try to arrange a meeting to improve PR / look at new initiatives etc. No response to email, no letter, no phone call.
Most recent attempt was 7 days ago now!
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Post by MartinB on Mar 8, 2004 9:43:01 GMT 1
I wasn't really expecting a reply. I wasn't rude but I asked them if the game was not all-ticket and I couldn't get in the away end would they refund my travel expenses?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 8, 2004 10:43:39 GMT 1
We have given away supporters part of the home section in the past, we gave Stoke City and Birmingham City half the Riverside haven't we?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2004 11:47:03 GMT 1
Yes Stutt - think health and safety might have stopped us from doing it more recently.
My simple view? Make 3,500 spaces available for TUFC, 2500 for STFC and you won't have too much of a problem if it's policed as well as the last two games.
Arguments such as 'what about people who want to stand/sit where they normally do' are ridiculous in a scenario like this.
Objectives are:
a) Make sure trouble is minimised b) Make sure that no fans are locked out and are in the correct end.
Simple as. Anything else cannot occupy the space in people's thinking.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 8, 2004 11:50:27 GMT 1
Spot on welshshrew our kid, excellent post that...
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Mar 8, 2004 12:37:52 GMT 1
could say the same about a 8000 capacity. Thing is; would shrews do the same? I think not! I'd rather have one side half empty than 3000 shrews in the ground to be honest. Yes and we did against Chelsea many years ago, we gave them half the riverside, your point again Bowya ?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 8, 2004 13:05:54 GMT 1
This "Andy Shaw doesn't need the money" stuff is just plain wrong
If that is the case why is Joshua's so expensive? Why is the hotel so expensive? How did he get so rich? Why are all his businesses profitable?
Sometimes you guys think he is just Santa in disguise when actually he has done all his sums and only took you full time once the financial infrastructure was in place
The man is a very successful businessman, and I doubt he would prefer a half empty ground to £30k in cash at the turnstiles
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Mar 8, 2004 13:07:04 GMT 1
Many years ago. My point - you wouldn't do it now, and didn't for Chelsea, Everton.
We didn't Millwall - so why you?
I just don't see the point of being at home if you have as many fans as us in the ground.
Yes I accept safety issues - but an all ticket match would have been better, with the shrews getting the away end - and 500 seats.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2004 13:07:58 GMT 1
millwall returned tickets didn't they ?
ps bowya
we took 2600+ to northwich you had 1500 in total at home to northwich
there is only one team in shropshire
if you think you can prevent us coming think again
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Mar 8, 2004 13:08:30 GMT 1
I was only stating fact. The man has adopted us to be a fan - as much as anyone.
He's been there 7 years now - people seem to forget this. If we desperately needed money, then why turn Millwall down?
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Mar 8, 2004 13:09:28 GMT 1
millwall returned tickets didn't they ? Yes - because it was wrongly postponed - on Ray Wilkins' request. On the saturday, Millwall wanted 2500 tickets.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2004 13:26:43 GMT 1
Bowya, I've made my point regarding what I think should happen (and which may not be far away from what actually happens?). But just to pick you up on a couple of points. In the past, in games where we have had away support that outstrips the spaces normally given to them, we have provided extra room, based on the fact that the home support will not take up the full capacity (sound familiar?). In recent games (you used Everton and Chelsea) where home support has taken up the full capacity of tickets, we have been unable to do anything else to accomodate away fans. Quite right. Now, if Telford United had 4,500 fans planning to attend the game in 8 days time, then I for one (and I suspect most other Town fans) would agree that 1,500 tickets for away fans would be appropriate. But will there be over 4,000 Telford supporters there? No, of course there won't. Hence, the call for more spaces to be provided. Now, let's wait until further details are announced before we keep this hypothetical argument running any longer.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2004 13:27:06 GMT 1
bowya your argument is the silliest i have ever heard
along the same lines why don't you suggest to andy shaw that he bans town fans for the league game
some of my best memories of games at the meadow have been against sides which brought more fans that could fit into the station end
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Post by graedw on Mar 8, 2004 13:45:23 GMT 1
did`nt town give west brom the whole of the riverside and station end for their end of season beach party once, to deny their fans would have been stupidity especially when we would have nowhere near filled that area,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2004 13:50:52 GMT 1
Yes, then they came on the pitch, stopped the game and broke our goalposts.
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Post by Paulk on Mar 8, 2004 14:26:43 GMT 1
Capacity is 6,700 with away section is 1,300 (correct me if Im wrong) so that leaves room for 5,400 home fans, do you believe there will be that many there? General consensus is that there won't be 5,400 Telford fans and there will be far more than 1300 Shrewsbury fans intending on travelling. So the dilemna is: A)Do you want to make parts of the ground normally reserved to home fans available to away fans. B)Do you just give the away fans the usual away allocation Situation A you are reducing the chances of any trouble and all the people who want to get to the game get to see it. You will please the away fans and the police but risk annoying your own fans. You will however a near full ground and improve your finances Situation B means there is more chance of away fans entering the home sections and potential for trouble. You will annoy the police and away fans, but please your own fans. You will however play in a less than full ground and miss out on alot of money. Now from looking at it like that there are plenty of advantages of making more room for us but the only disadvantage is that it annoys you - I don't think that is a strong enough argument to give to the police. Stuff like "what if people want to stand on the East Terrace" is just laughable as is saying we didn't give any more tickets to Everton & Chelsea. They were a completly different set of situations as we sold out our areas, the whole point is you aren't. Your not going to miss out in anyway, its a question do you want to cut off your nose to spite your face? As mentioned in the past we have given home areas to away fans and I'l admit it did annoy me, seeing local rivals in our end (Stoke & West Brom were at the time, don't laugh but looking back I can see it was the best decision. Time will tell eh
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Post by warbiesbread on Mar 8, 2004 14:40:01 GMT 1
Having contacted the shrews this morning, they are stating it is not all ticket? whats happin? do not see any reason to make it all ticket
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 8, 2004 15:17:36 GMT 1
It is not all ticket
West Mercia told us in September it wouldn't be
Judy told us last week it wouldn't be
it won't be! unless someone somewhere has had the biggest change of heart since Paul Marsden decided yellow was his new favourite colour
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Post by AFCBally on Mar 8, 2004 15:26:32 GMT 1
whose to say we wouldn't sell 4500 tickets we have not had a competitive home against you for many years, so who knows what sort of interest there is going to be.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 8, 2004 15:28:04 GMT 1
whose to say we wouldn't sell 4500 tickets we have not had a competitive home against you for many years, so who knows what sort of interest there is going to be. welcome home my dear friend
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Post by AFCBally on Mar 8, 2004 15:29:23 GMT 1
lol thanx unfortunatly i have to go back to work now.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 8, 2004 15:38:51 GMT 1
lol thanx unfortunatly i have to go back to work now. come back soon and we can relive the good old days
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Post by ianwhit on Mar 8, 2004 15:50:46 GMT 1
Why do Town fans always think the opposition should give over their ground to us?
Remeber the Brighton game back in 2000/01 season last game? Brighton were promoted and all their fans wanted to come and said they could being 5000 at least?
Everyone on messageboards up in arms, the club should never give over the ground to away fans, it would be disgusting if the club even thought about it etc, etc...
Town play superb win 3-0 in front of 5360, Brighton brought their allocated 2500, so we would have probably fitted in another 2000.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2004 15:53:20 GMT 1
Ian, what would you do?
1,500 tickets for Town fans yes?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2004 15:53:20 GMT 1
Not everybody Ian. I was all for letting the Brighton fans in, and there were a few more of us saying that too! Please don't say 'Everone'.
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Post by Norge on Mar 8, 2004 15:54:17 GMT 1
Why do Town fans always think the opposition should give over their ground to us? Remeber the Brighton game back in 2000/01 season last game? Brighton were promoted and all their fans wanted to come and said they could being 5000 at least? Everyone on messageboards up in arms, the club should never give over the ground to away fans, it would be disgusting if the club even thought about it etc, etc... Town play superb win 3-0 in front of 5360, Brighton brought their allocated 2500, so we would have probably fitted in another 2000. I've just had a deja vu experience
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Post by ianwhit on Mar 8, 2004 15:54:26 GMT 1
Ian, what would you do? 1,500 tickets for Town fans yes? ok, i'll rephrase as the very vocal majority
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