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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 0:49:49 GMT 1
Well where to start this could be very easy - everyone - every single one of them players is not good enough to play witht eh good teams in this leage Howie - flapped all night, lost in space for the first goal and no where for the second, messed up a few kicks and was so uncomanding its scary - wheres bavo again Mossy - trys hard but seems to forget there are no wingers and bangs it to them anyway - looked peed off with it all and did not like the riverside reaction - go done by the pasey players several times and was causht out going forward Tinno and Ridler - whats happened - theyhave lost it - free headers all night - then loked real dodgey when it was three at the back - cant play a long ball for s**t at the moment and lok to be knackered (well its no wonder as theres NO COVER AT THE CLUB STILL) The new lad - from man U - tidy enough - looked more like a winger to me and got stuck in first 20mins - they settled down nicely to the lever the rest of the players play at at the town and went missing Sedgemore - p**s off is he a utility player - yes he can play anywherer but is s**t in all of them - Never let him in the midfield again - nay the team again Can pass of tackle and like most every one else will not get stuck in in the phyiscal battle. Occoner - or the spoilt little boy - stammping - what a baby - lucky not to go!!! He really cant take a free kick messed every one with little fancy flicks or stupid quick ones - had it for the season in my eyes Street - dose any one belive that he made it through the whole game - so so bad - through he might be better in center midd - was so wrong - cant pass or control a ball or shoot....... ship him out now!!! Edwards (needed him shame he got a knock) Darby - at least he scored did little else and had no chances to waste un like others - but thats it |Banim - what did we call for mini cramb - little flicks when a simple pass is needed and when he gets his chances (the 2 first half) ****ed em up good and proper - did not seem to know where to play and dropped deep to much - but then when Quinn has told you what to do you would be confused!! Lukey - pass the bloddy ball - your not cramb for f's sake - the most selfish player at the club now and the fans are turing sadley - wasted a few good chances by trying to beat a player Cramb - way to start the game - got boed as he came on by the riverside so stuck the Vs at us ponsey as usual - did nothing Quinn - just guess what he was like Over all - no body stood out - and the fans were really on ther backs and rightly so - comments
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 24, 2004 1:01:08 GMT 1
Ok, the Jones verdict... Howie- Generally agree with what you said Glyn, tho he did make one or two brave stops at the feet of strikers in 1 on 1 situations. Not long ago I stood alone in saying I would prefer Bavo to Scott. Maybe tonight may have won me some more support Moss- The fact that he was one of the better players tonight shows just how bad we were. Even simple things like throw ins he made seem difficult. Not bad coming forward but like you said too often caught up the pitch and out of position. Tinno and Ridler- Agreed, standards plummeting, Tinno especially. Lawrence- My MOM, looked so comfortable on the ball and made some awesome challenges too. Couple of lapses but to say he slipped to the low standards of the others is very harsh! Sedgemore- Agree. People said he was being made to look bad by having to use his left foot. On tonights evidence, his right is no better. O'Connor- In many Atkins v O'Connor debates I've been shouted down when suggesting Spidey was superior. I've given into peer pressure. No more. O'Connor better than Atkins...is he **** Street- Useless incompetant joke of a player. Can't pass, tackle, shoot, cross...get rid, NOW! Darby- Agree with your assesment Glyn Banim- Got his chance to impress and wasted it. Favours the sublime over the simple and in games like tonight, we dont need it one bit. Rodgers- Selfish on a few occasions but did OK, 2nd place in my MOM awardings. Cramb- If I got booed by my own fans I would give them the V as well, not needed Didnt do too bad in my opinion Quinn- Out
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Post by faginy on Mar 24, 2004 1:15:50 GMT 1
agree with most of that pete, more sensible than the vitriol from gripey anyway! would ask whether it was a coincidence that we only really started playing when JQ came off the bench. he won all his headers and used the ball well - oh the irony i'm at a loss
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 24, 2004 1:19:19 GMT 1
Rodgers, Banim, Street, Cramb all played out of position
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 1:20:46 GMT 1
I think its a good job me and faginy are mates in the real world as we have possible the two most differing thougts and opinians on the town I cant see the good and he cant see the bad!!! As for us only playing well when Quinn came on - well come on we had to score and play better up front - we had 5 up front - but im sure that the defence and midfirld were not better then - if anything worse - you reckon if it was that good we should start with a 3-2-5 in the next game mate
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Post by faginy on Mar 24, 2004 1:23:43 GMT 1
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 1:28:34 GMT 1
I refer you to your posts early in the season - its goals that count ;D As forup front - after tonight - i put cramb in ahead of banim and please give luke a go on the wing if we have none at the club !!!!!! Crambs a better option than Banim thats clear, i will give you that!!! And i can be nasty these fools need a wake up call - and they might get ojne one day (hopefully sat cos im gonna be down the front and vocal with my "negative posse " and if it all goes wrong again im gonna let em have it.... both barrels - But i dont want to - they just keep makeing me
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Post by How Soon Is Now? on Mar 24, 2004 1:29:49 GMT 1
What sort of complete moron would boo Cramb when he came on? Ok, i can fully appreciate that opinon on him is divided but why the f**k would anybody in their right mind think that booing him before he touches the ball is going to a) motivate him to try harder or b) help the team's cause? That sort of 'support' we could surely do without(?)!
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 1:33:46 GMT 1
As the 500 ood who did tonight on the riverside - i did not untill he felt it nessasary to flick the vs at the stand - idiot - im told the reaction the wakemen was athe same but with more booing!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 24, 2004 1:36:03 GMT 1
As the 500 ood who did tonight on the riverside - i did not untill he felt it nessasary to flick the vs at the stand - idiot - im told the reaction the wakemen was athe same but with more booing! 500? mate, it was 5 at best and they must have been standing by you
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 24, 2004 1:37:22 GMT 1
Yes, we were. It was like last season again. Just like then, for me the match at Darlington was the bad omen and I feel that tonight may be this season's advance warning that nothing is going to happen. For heaven's sake JQ - where's the passion? Even their manager showed he was still alive at times!!!!!!
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 24, 2004 1:38:04 GMT 1
Like I said, he had done nothing to warrant the booing at all. If I was him I would have actually favoured a Cantona-esque karate kick to a simple V sign.
I'm fully behind Crambs actions on this one sorry...
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 24, 2004 1:38:19 GMT 1
Booing Cramb when he came on?
Can't have been many - I was on the Riverside and I didn't hear it.
Can't beleive anyone blaming Howie or any of the defence for the first goal. It was just one of those flukes that happens occasionally when a team playing with confidence goes forwards. Only possible blame was the midfield backing off and letting the bloke run through but you tend to get used to that happening with Town
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 1:39:43 GMT 1
Strange that Cramb could here them 5 people over the other 1500 on the riverside - from the other side of the pitch and felt it nessesary to flick the vs to them same 5 people!!!! Face it Cramb is generally universally (apart from the odd nutter ) disliked for the lack of passion and recently end product - im not exagerating how lound the reaction to him was
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Post by faginy on Mar 24, 2004 1:41:40 GMT 1
Strange that Cramb could here them 5 people over the other 1500 on the riverside - from the other side of the pitch and felt it nessesary to flick the vs to them same 5 people!!!! Face it Cramb is generally universally (apart from the odd nutter ) disliked for the lack of passion and recently end product - im not exagerating how lound the reaction to him was all in your mind mate
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 1:46:05 GMT 1
- still does not give another reaon for his reaction other than the booing was loud enought to be herd from the oterh side of the pitch??
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 24, 2004 1:52:52 GMT 1
To be fair Glyn, if you were playing for Town, came on as sub and were booed straight away, what would you do? It's easy to say you should rise above it when you aren't involved, but when it's actually happening to you it's very very different.
He could have had family and friends at the game, who will have heard that FROM HIS OWN FANS, which must have been very embarassing and upsetting for them as well...
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 1:56:45 GMT 1
Fair point but i someone was trying to tell me that it was not that lound - but had to have been for crambto react like that - right or wrong
i personaly am glad to see a bit of the p**sed of cramb - it might help his game
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 24, 2004 1:58:03 GMT 1
I heard it from the Wakeman terrace...
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 2:02:33 GMT 1
I thank you it was loud!!!! TBH - do you where ear plugs at the game I did not boo untill after he had done the deed - i was on the phone - but everyone around me on the riverside was - mabey im having a negative influence (in fairness no one has told me to shut up since crimbo )
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Post by faginy on Mar 24, 2004 2:06:17 GMT 1
i think the boo's were cos o'connor was taken off not street
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Post by Exkeeper on Mar 24, 2004 2:09:50 GMT 1
Bring back Bavo? Your memory must be playing tricks on you, as you have forgotten some of the schoolboy goalkeeping errors of the last couple of years. It can never be proved, but I would suggest that Shots would have scored more than 2 had Bavo played. Remember every team we played last season, had done their homework. Stick a couple of big strikers in the 6 yard box, hang your corners and free-kicks under the bar and then jog back to the centre for restart after goal. Cambridge did it, so did Rushden, and many others. Also, very harsh to blame Howie, for the flukey first goal. The guy was second favourite to get his foot to it, and Howie's view would have been blocked by the defender.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 24, 2004 2:10:05 GMT 1
I thank you it was loud!!!! TBH - do you where ear plugs at the game i was merely contesting your estimate of 500 people booing.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 2:10:22 GMT 1
no no no - they were not - you cant see it can you mate - we shall discuss this further on Thursday - im sure out local contact at the club will have some intresting revalations into the reasons and therefores over this incedent - anyway im board with it now i justed wanted to prove that the boos were more than a few people it was tearrace feeling - cramb is mor and more disliked any way stop wagging fingers at me you nasty man
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 2:12:01 GMT 1
Ok TBH i will agree it might have been less than 500 but it was the general feeling of the terrace represented (same can be said for the Wakemen according to people there)
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 24, 2004 2:16:32 GMT 1
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 24, 2004 2:17:04 GMT 1
Agreed cant blame Howie for the first, was a sublime goal. Just my opinion that Bavo is better, I know not many agree Notice how no-one has contested the Atkins v O'Connor point tho, MAAS still rules supreme ;D
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Post by faginy on Mar 24, 2004 2:19:57 GMT 1
they were definetly booing Street staying on comments i heard like "get that useless feckin Street off Quinny" and "o'connor? thats our midfield!" swayed it for me ;D
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Post by Dale on Mar 24, 2004 4:25:20 GMT 1
Bavo is most definitely not better than Howie, and he's not exactly had a inspirational loan spell at Morecambe so its obvious we're going to have him back Until the Scarborough home game I dont think Howie's done much wrong. Desperately need a new centre half to give Tinno and Ridler a kick up the arse, Brazier could be the man but would he go to Chester instead given the choice? He probably would
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Post by Dale on Mar 24, 2004 4:28:10 GMT 1
Also, I didnt go to the game as I was working (thank ****) but booing a player before he even touches the ball seems a little silly, and I'm not the greatest fan of Cramb.
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