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Post by Stevenelsonfanclub on Dec 8, 2004 20:06:55 GMT 1
Are they definately male?
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Dec 8, 2004 20:19:29 GMT 1
No.
He's a great recruiting sergeant for the liberal tendency.
He presents himself as intellectually superior but his arguments always have massive logical flaws.
He never answers any of the difficult questions posed to him.
In fact I often wonder if he is just a wind-up merchant, albeit a sick one.
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Post by MyddleShrews on Dec 8, 2004 20:28:25 GMT 1
i say dont ban him isn't no one allowed to print there points of views any more cos i thought this was amessageboard where people put there points of views!!! if people posted things on here that p**sed people of there would be hardly no one on here!! so leave cynical shrew alone let him have his views if ya dont agree with them IGNORE them most of you are adults so start ACTING like one!!! this is a messageboard for fans to put there points of views across and he has so leave him!!
thanxs
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Post by john on Dec 8, 2004 20:35:48 GMT 1
So posting potentially racist posts is ok then?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2004 20:38:39 GMT 1
from your postings i gathered you were a knob, cheers for confirming that.
you cant go round spouting hateful inhuman crap just because its "your opinion"
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Post by rocketrodgers on Dec 8, 2004 20:42:24 GMT 1
There is a danger of being accused of being a clique by setting up this thread but Japes is right - the guy/girl has a right to speak his/her brains so to speak, but when racist and other offensive comments are made its unacceptable and in many other places Cynical Shrew would have been banned before now.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Dec 8, 2004 20:46:29 GMT 1
i say dont ban him isn't no one allowed to print there points of views any more cos i thought this was amessageboard where people put there points of views!!! if people posted things on here that p**sed people of there would be hardly no one on here!! so leave cynical shrew alone let him have his views if ya dont agree with them IGNORE them most of you are adults so start ACTING like one!!! this is a messageboard for fans to put there points of views across and he has so leave him!! thanxs Let him start his own proboard site and leave him to post on it and anyone else who is like minded. I have friends who would be offended by this person, its my right to agree with those who want him banned, even if that means every time he leaves a post it is removed what ever the content.
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Post by SickofIm on Dec 8, 2004 20:50:55 GMT 1
It his him, and him alone, that prevent me letting my young (junior school age) son read this board by himself.
That says it all really
Ban him/her/it
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Post by MyddleShrews on Dec 8, 2004 20:54:14 GMT 1
you lot are t**ts have i said i agreed with any of his post no i ****in haven';t lol all i said is evryone is allowed there ophinon i have read his thread about the new meadow i disagreed with him but its his view i have not read his RACIST POST so i cant ****in comment so for sayint that i am a KNOB!!! SO STOP CALLIN ME A KNOB!!
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Post by MyddleShrews on Dec 8, 2004 20:56:04 GMT 1
if someone whats to let me read this racist i will comment on on it!! but now that person who called me a knob should he be banned hey
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2004 20:59:40 GMT 1
Fair play to you sir, you have no intellegence. Thing is, you can help being a knob (well you should) how are you meant to help being black??
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Post by rocketrodgers on Dec 8, 2004 21:01:05 GMT 1
you lot are tw@ts have i said i agreed with any of his post no i f**kin haven';t lol all i said is evryone is allowed there ophinon i have read his thread about the new meadow i disagreed with him but its his view i have not read his RACIST POST so i cant f**kin comment so for sayint that i am a KNOB!!! SO STOP CALLIN ME A KNOB!! Im actually taking exception to the "you lot are t**ts" comment! Sweeping statement that! read through my post - wasnt accusing anyone of anything!
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Post by PC McGarry number 452 on Dec 8, 2004 21:07:09 GMT 1
Oh how I wish I'd been to a course on the Race Relations Act recently.
I think I'm correct in saying The Racial Hatred Act introduced in October 1995 amends the Racial Discrimination Act, and allows people to complain about publicly offensive or abusive behaviour based on racial hatred.
Unlawful behaviour is defined as public acts based on the race, colour, national or ethnic origin of a person or group of people which are likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate.
Hmmmm.....................................now let me think
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Post by ShrewsAde on Dec 8, 2004 21:16:48 GMT 1
sorry voted for the dickhead before reading the previous posts
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Post by Brum Bull on Dec 8, 2004 23:04:20 GMT 1
Are you a "chav" muddleshrews? .........Nice avatar or am i being sexist/classist/chavist?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 8, 2004 23:53:57 GMT 1
Myddleshrews - you are perfectly welcome here, but don;t call us all rude names becausea twelve year old gave you a bit of grief
And as for old cynical, well
I would consider bringing back the birch, but it would be a waste of wood
I will settle for deleting everything he writes ever, but only if the powers at be decide so
This is an open messageboard. Therefore opinions should be aired, but not to these extremes.
I would be embarrassed if Martin o'Connor read Blue and Amver tonight, and that is not right
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Post by Norway on Dec 9, 2004 0:22:54 GMT 1
you lot are tw@ts have i said i agreed with any of his post no i f**kin haven';t lol all i said is evryone is allowed there ophinon i have read his thread about the new meadow i disagreed with him but its his view i have not read his RACIST POST so i cant f**kin comment so for sayint that i am a KNOB!!! SO STOP CALLIN ME A KNOB!! To say 'you lot are t**ts' is not on. Only one person has called you a knob for your comments so maybe you can think about what you post in future...... Geoff is probably 13 max now and can be forgiven for such views and maybe you should take lightly but on the other hand he can be more intelligent than most on here.
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Post by pawlo on Dec 9, 2004 0:24:58 GMT 1
A couple of weeks ago, many people on here, including quite a few moderators, where up in arms because the stewards at GM where not doing anything to stop racist and offensive abuse. Time to put your money where your mouth is chaps. I strongly defend freedom of speech, but not when that freedom is used to dimean, offend or ridicule another section of our society. I have some pretty strong views of my own, and from time to time, do bore people on here with them, fox hunting, raving lefty ect. But I have always tried to put a rational arguement and have never tried to deliberately offend anyone, and when i have, i have apologised. TBH makes an excellent point, God forbid MOC logged on tonight and saw the kind of posts that his clubs supporters allow on thier message board and the number of people who apologise for the person posting them, for whatever reason. Come to think of it, God forbid he logs on at anytime and sees the posts saying he is too old and too slow Time to take your heads out the sand.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2004 0:28:29 GMT 1
Oh our heads are firmly out of the sand don't worry, but this is a case of what is best for the messageboard, there is no easy fix, the poll demonstrates this and the comments on the thread by people who evidently despise what is being written.
For me, the best option at the moment would be to ban guest posting - this would put an end to cynical's postings but at what cost? There are a lot of excellent posts made by guests on this forum too.
I still believe if his posts were ignored then the problem wouldn't be a patch on what it is, but then the members of this board have shown time and time again they do not want this to occur.
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Post by rob on Dec 9, 2004 0:34:07 GMT 1
No freedom of speech and all that.
I wouldnt like to be banned just because i had different views to everyone else.
Let the moderators deleate the racist/controversial stuff, but let us not fall into the trap of Herr Hitler whom only after Hindenburg signed the papers banned freedom of speech and the media (which b+a s a form of).
Let him do his business, let us laugh at him, let us criticise, but whatever we do dont ban him, that;d be stooping too his level.
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Post by rob on Dec 9, 2004 0:35:00 GMT 1
No freedom of speech and all that.
I wouldnt like to be banned just because i had different views to everyone else.
Let the moderators deleate the racist/controversial stuff, but let us not fall into the trap of Herr Hitler whom only after Hindenburg signed the papers banned freedom of speech and the media (which b+a s a form of).
Let him do his business, let us laugh at him, let us criticise, but whatever we do dont ban him, that;d be stooping too his level.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 9, 2004 0:35:46 GMT 1
but Ant surely we can just delete any post made by Cynical Shrew? Just delete them all I don;t know what moderators are allowed to do that now but I can't Banning guests would be a really really bad decision
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Post by shrewinjapan on Dec 9, 2004 0:37:21 GMT 1
I responded on his kick racism out of football thread but have not responded to his latest drivel and will not respond to any more of his threads regarding race. I'm pretty sure he enjoys the argument since nobody on here ever agrees with his racist views. Anyway, I don't know about banning him - I voted in favour but just to register my contempt - but I think threads such as his latest should be deleted.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 9, 2004 0:41:38 GMT 1
I would delete them if I could
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Post by pawlo on Dec 9, 2004 1:01:26 GMT 1
Oh our heads are firmly out of the sand don't worry, but this is a case of what is best for the messageboard, there is no easy fix, the poll demonstrates this and the comments on the thread by people who evidently despise what is being written. For me, the best option at the moment would be to ban guest posting - this would put an end to cynical's postings but at what cost? There are a lot of excellent posts made by guests on this forum too. I still believe if his posts were ignored then the problem wouldn't be a patch on what it is, but then the members of this board have shown time and time again they do not want this to occur. I agree that banning guest posts is not right, for the same reasons as you, ie, some guests have more than two brain cells. But can i ask, why do we have a dodgy posts room and if using words such as Negro isnt offensive then what in Gods name is?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2004 1:08:28 GMT 1
I agree that banning guest posts is not right, for the same reasons as you, ie, some guests have more than two brain cells. But can i ask, why do we have a dodgy posts room and if using words such as Negro isnt offensive then what in Gods name is? Fair point that Pab. All mods have the power to edit posts and move them to the dodgy posts room.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 9, 2004 1:11:20 GMT 1
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Post by SeanBroseley on Dec 9, 2004 7:43:53 GMT 1
I was the first person to vote against banning Cynical Shrew and I am glad to see that I am not the only one to take this sensible route.
I note that the post that has now been removed posed a question rather than offered an opinion.
I'm against censorship in all its forms.
I do not find Cynical Shrew's opinions repulsive - it is enough for me that I do not hold them.
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Post by Parker on Dec 9, 2004 8:43:32 GMT 1
I have voted that he should not be banned, but that does not mean I agree with what he is posting.
Mods should remove any material that is offensive to the majority. There will always be a minority that will agree with Cynical.
This board is used by young and old, who both should be protected from seeing some of the things that appear from time to time.
My only concern is the time delay after the post appears, before it gets removed.
Its a shame that we do not have a report button that would remove a post to a safe area until its been reviewed by a mod.
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Post by PorkyShrew on Dec 9, 2004 9:07:11 GMT 1
think we ALL need to calm down a bit, simple solution.... let him say what he says but DELETE IT. jeeez not rocket science is it. MyddleShrew and guest poster "Geoff" need to both calm down, Myddleshrew was merely stating that cynical sud be allowed t put his view across, nowhere did it say he sud be allowed to post raciest information so a towards guest poster of "geoff" and myddleshrew you sudnt put everyone into the same catagory as you wont get very far in life if u do, everyone on the msgboard will hav different opinions and someone will say somrthing u disagree wiv but calling them al the naames under the sun aint the solution so a to you too. saying that i will now myself for using the too often ;D now i will crawl back into my hole
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