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Post by telfordSHREWS on Apr 10, 2004 22:11:35 GMT 1
...and did anyone go ?
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Apr 10, 2004 22:12:43 GMT 1
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Apr 10, 2004 22:13:17 GMT 1
Actually it was 1746 so I was only a few out
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 10, 2004 22:13:23 GMT 1
1700 odd - and I did Excellent crowd considering.
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Post by wibbin on Apr 11, 2004 0:13:34 GMT 1
considering what exactly?
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 11, 2004 0:15:50 GMT 1
Shrewsbury we're playing at the same time, taking away a large amount of their crowd.
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 11, 2004 0:27:18 GMT 1
**** right off I meant... CONSIDERING Telford isn't a rich place, CONSIDERING we have just forked out shed loads for 4 games in 8 days, and CONSIDERING its Bank Holiday weekend.
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Post by wibbin on Apr 11, 2004 0:32:29 GMT 1
Mate your club is going to the wall - If people arent coming because you have pld 4 games in 8 days in your our of need then your f-cked.
Christ even wolves were away
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 11, 2004 0:33:32 GMT 1
How can you get 4,000 for the Milwall game, but not raise near that amount for when you need them most?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 11, 2004 0:35:57 GMT 1
Mate your club is going to the wall - If people arent coming because you have pld 4 games in 8 days in your our of need then your f-cked. Christ even wolves were away that is harsh 4 games in 8 days? I couldn't afford that!
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 11, 2004 0:37:09 GMT 1
Not if you have a season ticket
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Post by wibbin on Apr 11, 2004 0:38:18 GMT 1
Throb if the Town was in the same position You would find a way
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 11, 2004 0:39:48 GMT 1
we took over 400 to Canvey, each around 40 quid that day 10 quid tues, 10 quid thurs, 10 quid today - its all flipin expensive for a week's footy! Only the die hards - and kids for a quid - were going to be present today - I expected around 1300, and was pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 11, 2004 0:43:21 GMT 1
that just shows that Telford haven't got as many passionate fans as Shrewsbury have.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 11, 2004 0:49:12 GMT 1
that just shows that Telford haven't got as many passionate fans as Shrewsbury have. but surely that was never in question? and "passion" is the wrong word, i don't think you can guage the "passion" of a fan unless you know them
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 11, 2004 0:52:43 GMT 1
Ok then "Telford have less die hard fans than Shrewsbury" because a die hard fan would dish out endless amounts of money to watch their team.
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 11, 2004 0:59:04 GMT 1
Utter rubbish.
Being die hard, doesn't necessarily mean you have more money than none die hards.
As for the season ticket argument - many season ticket holders have been donating the entry fee to TUISA anyway.
You can't gauge passion within a fanbase without being in that fanbase. You have a bigger fanbase, but thats only natural - given your history, and culture - of which Telford, as a new town has little of.
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Post by x emz x on Apr 11, 2004 1:01:22 GMT 1
yea ok guys...i think weve kinda gathered that telford aint "rakin" in the fans but u cant doubt the passion n woteva the supporters have for the club,albeit a few, but still those few could keep the club going i just think we really should get off their backs about their attendances, they've never been high, we know that, they know that!although the attendances are a big part of their quest for survival, those that turn out cant make another 2-3000 turn up can they....just let them get on with it now and hope that they get through it!!!
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Post by AFCBally on Apr 11, 2004 1:03:25 GMT 1
What with all the games and collections people can only pay out so much. If i hadn't got a s/t i wouldn't have been able to go to the Canvey game or even some of the home games.Take into account some take their children with them then its an expensive time.If you haven't got the money then you haven't got it simple as that? I think considering all the games ,bank holiday w/end our crowds have been excellent.Last year we would of gottten about 800 imo.
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 11, 2004 1:04:29 GMT 1
plus... in the last two weeks, we've raised 33k!!!
I call that pretty die hard - for a "small" fan base.
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Post by TonyC on Apr 11, 2004 1:05:26 GMT 1
Bowya,
In all seriousness I recommended to Tony on Buckschat that next seasons business plan should be based on 1500 average crowds. I now feel that 1350 would be more prudent baring in mind your much depleted squad next year and proven inability to get over 1800 to "crisis" games.
That is a shrewd business call is it not?
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 11, 2004 1:08:32 GMT 1
I'd like to think our fan base has indeed increased a lot since last year. We'll wait and see.
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 11, 2004 1:09:40 GMT 1
call me arrogant, as you have done, but the increase in the fan base is due to us being in the same league as you.
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Post by theoldcodger on Apr 11, 2004 1:11:34 GMT 1
So many home games in just over a week is a bit much unless you hold a season ticket. Attendances look to have doubled since last season but you have to wonder, given the size of the place, why they are still around half of Town's.
They used to be Wellington Town - wonder if those in the rest of "Telford" ( Dawley, Ironbridge, Madeley, Oakengates etc) still think of them as that and don't follow them as a result. You can change a name but not local loyalties, maybe......
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Post by AFCBally on Apr 11, 2004 1:14:14 GMT 1
So we got 2800+ against Exeter at the start of the season coz you were in our league? Afro that is bollox imo why would we get more in virtually every home game this year than last just cos you are in our league?oops forgot you are the Man utd of the Conference according to JQ
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 11, 2004 1:14:43 GMT 1
I'd estimate 90% of support comes from Wellington.
Apparently 95% of STH reside in Wellington - an astounding percentage. If we can attract these people, then we can attract others - given time.
TUISA - and the eventual Trust we aim to bring about over the coming months, will firstly aim to get people to indeed support us - but its not gonna be easy.
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Apr 11, 2004 1:15:51 GMT 1
call me arrogant, as you have done, but the increase in the fan base is due to us being in the same league as you. OK, here goes... You, sir, are arrogant What utter rubbish... again
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 11, 2004 1:17:53 GMT 1
You're average attendance would be lower if we were still in the third, as ours would have been lower also, I just think when you have close rivals in the same league, more fans will get involved
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Post by x emz x on Apr 11, 2004 1:20:02 GMT 1
but 2 b honest i dont think it would!!!
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Post by rob on Apr 11, 2004 1:39:49 GMT 1
To be honest, I'll probably get slated for this, but didnt we have a rather large run of home games in a row, that were uninspiring, added to the fact that the team have performed at best workmanlike (in all honesty) s**te; not forgetting the cost of entry to the meadow (with hereford+telford also close by for local darby games). Yet our attendances still stood up, as did our away followings.
I would be very upset if I were a Telford fan at the recent attendances. While your average maybe over 2,000 how much is this clouded by the away followings broughts from Brentford, us (x2), hereford,Exeter and Chester as well as Millwall?
Yes you have played a number of games at home recently, but in your heart of hearts I'm sure you'd admit that you would be hoping for greater attendances reguardless of circumstances. After all its been made pretty clear that the people of Telford are needed NOW, not after their easter holiday or next season but NOW and they are not responding.
I do hope you survive, but I will be very interested to see what sort of attendances you'll be getting next season, when people will have accepted that league football is not the main aim, and the whole set up will have been scaled down.
However, as always I wish you luck and as I've been saying, if nothing else, I just hope that you loyal fans can get a foot hold in the boardroom through TUSIA, and if you do I'm sure many Town fans will be envious. I know I will I'm starting to become a bit nervous at the blatent lack of influence we as supporters have, as well as becoming increasingly worried with our long term financial stability.
Good luck.
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