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Post by R6ix on Apr 7, 2004 0:53:15 GMT 1
the boos an general abuse aimed at Quinn tonight was the worse ive heard , sounds as though the faithful are losing faith in the man?
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Post by grinfish on Apr 7, 2004 0:54:50 GMT 1
There are no Faithful anymore chap, he's weeded them out and fed them on pins! PINS! Whoops, lost it for a moment. Sorry! ;D
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 7, 2004 0:56:40 GMT 1
I went down the front and gave Quinn my feelings and the rest of the players and frankely you could not put on here what i and everone around me was saying - "lost faith is a massive understatement" even when the Pro boys started Salop chants they were quickly silenced by the rest - Only sammy got a positive reaction of the pitch and - thats it
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Apr 7, 2004 0:57:28 GMT 1
I thought I was back at the game then, ready to hurl my abuse....simmer down John simmer down! I lost my voice for a few moments after shouting my rage, but boy didnt it make me few a touch better
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 7, 2004 1:04:28 GMT 1
do you remember John gregory saying of Dwight Yorke after he left for Man Utd
"If I had a gun I would have shot him"
I am glad I left it at home!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2004 1:28:34 GMT 1
If Quinn can't motivate the players for games like these, he'll never be able to motivate them. the bloke just isn't good enough at his job - look what he's done to poor Lukey
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Post by rob on Apr 7, 2004 2:23:48 GMT 1
Have to say when he bought Lowe on and we still had no shape and looked useless. i did shout Same out sh!t Quin what the fcuks next.
However I didnt boo at fulltime, I dont blame anyone for booing at full time.
If the crowd have to turn on the players and management before anyone at the club takes any notice of us then so be it. (I will continue to refrain from booing whilst we are meeting the clubs "goals")-but thats just me.
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Apr 7, 2004 2:28:33 GMT 1
I didnt boo at ht, but at ft he had my venim
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Post by rob on Apr 7, 2004 2:38:34 GMT 1
what are you on about you crazy oldman
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Apr 7, 2004 2:48:11 GMT 1
I have no idea ;D
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Post by Ty on Apr 7, 2004 4:47:36 GMT 1
The chants of "What a loada rubbish" at final whistle tonight is the worst I have heard I have heard as a Town fan, I think half of the player's were embarrased to be walking off past us, when the chants started Street just covered his ears and couldn't bare to listed while Lowe just hung his head in his shirt, anyone see on Sat that Lowe was the last off the pitch, just went down to his knees at final whistle?
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Apr 7, 2004 10:30:59 GMT 1
Quinns lost the plot. He leaves at the end of season, simple as that
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Post by Young_Shrewster on Apr 7, 2004 10:37:14 GMT 1
What about Streety? He played his heart out he got a clap!
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 7, 2004 10:38:06 GMT 1
not on the naggington he did not!!!!
Street played his heart out yes but was he effective???
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 7, 2004 11:09:27 GMT 1
there was a load of abuse at the end
because he has been found out
not only do we not like him as a manager we don't like him as a man
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Apr 7, 2004 11:12:53 GMT 1
Agreed! He's a cold fish- no love or warmth in him. When people are phoney like that- people can see through them- and won't be able to work well for them.
Would it be a good idea to get together a few posts from this board- and let the Club see them?
I mean more especially from the long-term faithful.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 7, 2004 11:16:17 GMT 1
Seems like my letter idea might get another airing wiggy!!!!!!
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Post by rob on Apr 7, 2004 16:15:25 GMT 1
Have to say I was standing in the Naggington and it was obvious street was playing his heart out, to say he wasnt effective is a joke. he was the player who started the counter attacks, and we had a number of them, even if they didnt get anywhere.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 7, 2004 16:20:36 GMT 1
He clearly was not effective as he did not create anything - he was quite good at breaking play up and his passing was accurate but for the more attacking of the central midfeild his quality ball was lacking still
But hes getting better and i think theres some class in there some where - just a case of if he can produce it in the big games - but that can be said for everyone else as well!!!
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Post by rob on Apr 7, 2004 16:42:53 GMT 1
Pricey all our counter attacks went through him. He sent Sam and Lawrence away down the flanks with a number of neat through balls.
Think he also put Darby through for at least one on one.
Take those STFC are a one man team glasses off. If you want ineffectual, lets look at Darby....
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 7, 2004 16:48:57 GMT 1
Hell you find me one positive thing i posted about DD after last night he missed one or two sitters and if we had some effective subs (not Cramb) might have come off. But like Street he did battle!
Streets and average player at bet getting better - he was playing near the top of his game last night and was still only OK rob. Its a shame hes too short and he takes way too many toutchs on the ball in attacking areas - how many times did he bottle out of shooting second half - and he finished the game very poorley (so did all though)
As for sending people away - that was half the problem last night (i thought about this and think its quite a good point) For me Occoner due to lack of Pase and ability to get a tackle in is the more defensive of the central midfielders - street more attacking - Clearly he was way too deep last night and there for was never up to support the attackers and nor was occoner as it was not his job last night - how many times in the forst half when we were on to was he struggling to get up with play after starting the move - lots and there for the Telford defenders had less problems to deal with as our midfield did not push up!!! Too me that seemed the main reason why we were not particually effective in attacking positions last night!!
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Post by rob on Apr 7, 2004 16:57:40 GMT 1
Your right if people get to O'Connor, make him run about he does just fade away. This isnt helped when he is carrying an injury.
Yes it might be nice if a midfielder went up , but if he's just sent Sam away or Lawrence, then there should be 3/4 other players already up there to support.
In some respects he does come to deep, but that is because O'Connor is easily bypassed (how many times do we see O'Connor running back from the halfway line to catch up the play-normally just outside our box, only to just bring the man down because he cant actually get close enough to tackle him fairly)-he did 3 times at least last night.
I'm going to disagree with you (what a suprise) if Street is given the rest of the season at centre midfield everything we have will go through him, it started to happen against hereford, happened last night and will happen again. he's the only player in our team, who can look up and play an instant ball to a Town player. he is also one of the few players who is skillfull enough to make himself a bit of space to lay the ball off when he has two men on him.
I seriously did not like him before, but now I can see (and my dad agrees) that he is a central midfielder, I can see him becoming the first name on the team sheet.
He is the only bright thing to come of yesterday (along with Mr Aiston).
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 7, 2004 17:07:16 GMT 1
I actually dont disagree with you about Street - I was at Barnet and he was deat impressive - same at Hereford - and i dont think he should be dropped - i just thought he a step backwards a bit last night - thats how impressive he was at the above games
I thought he was good in the first 4 games then crap and now i like him again but i still maintain he was not as effective as he could have been last night (weather that was covreing for occoner or not)
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Post by rob on Apr 7, 2004 17:16:10 GMT 1
Hows about looking at the shape of the midfield for much of the second half?
it speaks volumes when Mr Aiston picks up the ball on the right, then on the left, then in the middle and then in defense.
We had no shape, no midfield, thus it is nigh on impossible to move forward and join sporadic attacks if you then leave the rest of the team exposed.
Not his fault, again look at the tactical decissions made by JQ. Tolley doesnt look fit, plenty of effort, but he's missing his first touch and hasnt played for a while, the same goes for Mr Aiston. As good as lawrence looks, he isnt a left midfielder (altho' he'll do as a makeshift one) he's a left back.
I dont want Quinns head (not yet anyway). I'm reserving judgement untill after the season, when I can think about it rationally and come to my conclusion.
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Post by Nomis on Apr 7, 2004 17:54:44 GMT 1
Last night was the first time i booed the team this season. I've been biting my tongue for most of the season nearly to the point of severing it, but last night was the final straw. Normally if i hear booing i respond by shouting encouragement. But at full time time i joined in the load of rubbish chant, and wether that makes me a hypocite i dont care. As a team there seems no shape to our play the midfield goes to pot thus putting pressure on the defence and offers no support or delivery to the forewards. Basically if your organised in all areas on the pitch, work hard and have a clear method of play that plays to the sides strengths your more or less have this league cracked i.e Chester. My optimism for the play offs is less than zero now, i wont sack Quinn just yet give him till the end of the season in the vain hope he proves us all wrong and we all end up as first class twits for being doubters. Gawd i hate this league,and I hate grounds with hotels,. For the rest of the season and even after the season i dont think i'll need gas and air i'll also need prozac and any other sedatives available. and my plan to quit the ciggies if we get promoted has caught the first flicker of fire and nearly all gone up in smoke(Pardon the pun)
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Post by Ty on Apr 7, 2004 18:00:34 GMT 1
Hell you find me one positive thing i posted about DD after last night he missed one or two sitters and if we had some effective subs (not Cramb) might have come off. But like Street he did battle! Pricey I don't understand why Cramb isn't an effective sub. Is it because he is our top goal scorer, has an excellent record this season, has scored at every level he has played and can create chances as well? And we don't actually want to score goals or have a shot?
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Post by rob on Apr 7, 2004 18:23:21 GMT 1
Actually Ty I better correct you before Pricey does, he didnt actually score in his 1 appearence for Southampton in the premier$hite. Therefore he must be s**te
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Apr 7, 2004 18:25:00 GMT 1
correct Rob - next season when DD is still here and still trying and Cramb is a sub at Rochdale or where ever - we shall be able to comment on the Cramb days!!!
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Post by Ty on Apr 7, 2004 18:28:52 GMT 1
correct Rob - next season when DD is still here and still trying and Cramb is a sub at Rochdale or where ever - we shall be able to comment on the Cramb days!!! DD might still be here still trying, but he probably still won't be scoring as many as Cramb
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Post by Matt1985 on Apr 7, 2004 19:09:02 GMT 1
Has anyone actually shouted 'Quinn out' yet because that was very rarely shouted at Ratcliffe untill it was very late and people who did were told to shut up.
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