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Post by kickinpretty on Dec 14, 2003 17:42:25 GMT 1
The honeymoon is over..
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Post by Gallon on Dec 14, 2003 17:49:07 GMT 1
ever though of writing headline for the Sun?, that one's quiet good
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Post by kickinpretty on Dec 14, 2003 17:52:15 GMT 1
LOL - as long as it was for page 3 ;D
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 14, 2003 18:34:32 GMT 1
are you still disquinntented?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2003 18:35:54 GMT 1
Are you disquinntented with 4th place then?
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Dec 14, 2003 18:36:39 GMT 1
I was halfway through writing a piece about how its not good enough, then Lowey scores....oh joy! Thats football for ya
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Post by P'boro shrew on Dec 14, 2003 18:39:45 GMT 1
Nice to be getting closer to our rightful place in the league, have the leading scorer and all this and we still have not played well yet....!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 14, 2003 18:44:54 GMT 1
give it fifteen minutes and that will be on confguide!
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Post by kickinpretty on Dec 14, 2003 18:52:09 GMT 1
Am i still Disquintented...YES YES YES
Nobody can justify to me the presence of a 44 year old has been striker in the squad ahead of Jody Banim, then to cap it all he takes Luke off instead of himself.
Quinn should get his ego back in his trousers and stay in the dugout, we have enough striking talent to rip every defence in this league apart.
Luke Rodgers will not improve unless quinn manages and luke plays...its as simple as that.
Just because we won should we let Quinn off the hook? Not in my opinion, sounds like we were very lucky to win the game today and thats been our problem all season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2003 18:57:09 GMT 1
"we have enough striking talent to rip every defence in this league apart." and they have really been doing just that all season haven't they - NOT
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Dec 14, 2003 18:57:45 GMT 1
There was a commonly held view when Quinn was appointed that Rodgers would improve under his management as Quinn was such an experienced striker, in fact the opposite has happened
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Post by townfanincrewe on Dec 14, 2003 18:57:46 GMT 1
Whats your problem with JQ playing if Darby was out and Cram we could not have two small men up front if he was knackerd then fine but hes not hes still one of the best strikers in the conferense and thats what having a strong squad is all about.
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Post by Jonah on Dec 14, 2003 19:00:57 GMT 1
Agree Kickin.What is it doing to Lukes confidence?? Everone presumes that we need a big target man.Why ?? From what I have seen the pace of Luke and the touch of Jodie would scare any defence at this level to death. How are we going to know if JQ continues with his ego trip?
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Post by Nick on Dec 14, 2003 19:06:10 GMT 1
See the "JQ starting" thread.
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Post by kickinpretty on Dec 14, 2003 19:07:29 GMT 1
OOPS ...hit a nerve here me thinks ;D
My problem with Quinn playing is that we have just forked out £20k on the hottest non-league striker going and hes sat on the bench ahead of a 44 year old.
All this talk about height needed up front is utter tosh when we have raw talent like Jody and Luke that thrive on football played on the floor, why cant we play football instead of hoof it and hope?
Quinn is doing ok, but OK isnt good enough, we should be walking all over teams with 10 men in this league but the last 2 games have shown that our hit and hope style of play is just lowering our standard down to the level of the conference.
Lets play football the right way and use the talents we have in Sammy, Jody and Luke to its full potential.
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Post by townfanincrewe on Dec 14, 2003 19:24:12 GMT 1
I agree we are best playing good passing football. In div thats great its just all we want this season is to go up and as long as we go up i dont realy care how we do it. Dont get me rong i think luke is a great player and we are reay lucky to have him but at the moment he seams to be trying harder to score him self than thinking about the good of the team. I would love to see Luke and Banim play together with Darby or Cram beind feeding the front to but this week it was not posible so we did what we needed to to get a win.
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Post by gregtheshrew on Dec 14, 2003 19:27:58 GMT 1
I seem to remember JQ saying at the start of the season that he wanted to be in the top 5 at christmas.If we beat Burton next week we will be,he knows what he is doing and we should keep the faith.It is a cliche but it's a marathon not a sprint.I always think of the first half of the season like a golf tournaments opening 2 rounds,you can't win it but you can lose any chance of winning and in our position we still have a chance.Remember there are 18 clubs in this league who would love to be where we are now and the other 3 probably regard us as a danger,so stop whinging and get behind JQ because he is certainly better than Ratcliffe.
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Post by kickinpretty on Dec 14, 2003 20:05:40 GMT 1
GregThe Shrew - Im not whinging mate, this is a forum, and people usually discuss.
The simple fact is, if we dont improve we wont be getting promotion, if we dont get promoted then next season will be a struggle finacially and our chances will probably be less.
We need the best team out on the pitch, and in my humble opinion Jody and Luke get the nod before Quinn.
You are entitled to disagree, you may like the route one football type of play but i dont, especially when we have sammy like and jody in the squad.
We must start playing football on the floor, then it doesnt matter that our strikers are fairly small as we will be playing to our full potential and advantage.
My question is this, what is the point of having a team of ball players when we are playing a hit and hope system of football - It doesn't make any sense to me and you can tell that its not making any sense to the players.
We are where we are in the league through shear luck, Hereford game accepted.
A big, big improvement is needed - and fast !
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Dec 14, 2003 20:33:37 GMT 1
Quinn was woeful today but so was Luke. Plus, to be fair, when Quinn's on the pitch he's said that he doesn't decide who comes on and who goes off but leaves it to Cooke.
He still should have gone off though cos the ball was launched time and time again to his head and the ball was lost
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Post by warbiesbread on Dec 14, 2003 20:39:29 GMT 1
Kickinpretty, could not agree more. We need to have the best team out, or the team that is going to compete. Playing long hopful balls to slow forward men are two a penny in the conferance and defences are geared up for it. Mr Quinn should concentrate on managing the team. I hope we get promoted this term, even if it is by playoffs, hereford game apart town have struggled to adapt.
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Post by ReadingShrew on Dec 14, 2003 20:53:07 GMT 1
Nobody has ever been promoted or won a championship because they played the most stylish football. letting a new signing (who is stepping up a level ) aclimatise seems a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Being a town fan since my first game in 1969 my assessment is that our best team ( by a mile ) was the Turner team that went into the old div 2. Now with the best will in the world I couldn't call them attractive but hell we didn't half enjoy beating a few big clubs with grit and determination.
Lets trust in Quinn because somewhere in there is a really good team waiting to come out and I firmly believe that's just around the corner.
Rome wasn't built in day.
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Post by skipwithrob on Dec 14, 2003 20:56:52 GMT 1
b******s me, the teams damned if it does and damned if it doesnt. We grinded out a win to day away from home. yes we didnt thrash them and yes we didnt sound very good, that could just be ants overly critical commentry tho' . But we still won. I'd have thought it would be obvious now that we are going to have to mix it to get out of this division. Playing passing football is all well and good if we are getting time on the ball and playing well. However as Telford, Exeter and tamworth showed teams are not going to allow us to sit on the ball. As for Quinn playing himself, well Darby isnt match fit, that much is obvious and even when Cramb is playing, which he didnt today we lack ariel pressence. Surely if they're good enough age doesnt matter. its not a long term thing. Big Jim is only playing over the short term and he is doing a job. I'll say it again, if we win games by playing aimless hoofball, then I'll settle for that. Playing badly, but still fourth, not bad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2003 21:11:17 GMT 1
Q. Who missed the penalty in the first half?
Q2. Who's flick on set up Ryan Lowe for the winning goal?
I was less than impressed with the Town's display today but three points is three points. I'd happily see play like that if it meant grinding out results.
We are now fourth in the division.
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Post by MartinB on Dec 14, 2003 21:16:56 GMT 1
. we didnt sound very good, that could just be ants overly critical commentry tho' . quote] Did Ant say we were shockingly bad, one of the worst performances by a Town side. If he did he was correct. If he didn't he should have done. Margate were poor but on top for periods of the first half. I don't have a clue how we were trying to play. 1st half Sammy had the beating of his full back everytime, so 2nd half we made sure we didn't give him the ball just hump it cluelessly. Most relieved man when we scored was JQ because he knew he wouldn't have to go up the tunnel through the Town fans to boos.
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Dec 14, 2003 21:19:35 GMT 1
balls me, the teams damned if it does and damned if it doesnt. We grinded out a win to day away from home. yes we didnt thrash them and yes we didnt sound very good, that could just be ants overly critical commentry tho' . But we still won. I'd have thought it would be obvious now that we are going to have to mix it to get out of this division. Playing passing football is all well and good if we are getting time on the ball and playing well. However as Telford, Exeter and tamworth showed teams are not going to allow us to sit on the ball. As for Quinn playing himself, well Darby isnt match fit, that much is obvious and even when Cramb is playing, which he didnt today we lack ariel pressence. Surely if they're good enough age doesnt matter. its not a long term thing. Big Jim is only playing over the short term and he is doing a job. I'll say it again, if we win games by playing aimless hoofball, then I'll settle for that. Playing badly, but still fourth, not bad. but was the performance any better? Today maybe we got away with one, without a consistent improvement in performance there are likely to more be Tamworths and Leighs in the near future We need to see an improvement in the performance level before we attain the consistency level required
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Post by ShrewsAde on Dec 14, 2003 21:19:43 GMT 1
and we're now 4th
but i'm crying in me beer at the sound of the posts tonight
We Will give someone a tonking soon, surely.
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Post by skipwithrob on Dec 14, 2003 21:25:55 GMT 1
Northwich? BTW- Are tickets on sale for this clash yet?
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Post by goindownthewylecop on Dec 14, 2003 23:03:50 GMT 1
Is Northwich going to be all ticket for us then?
Amazed that Town actually capitalised on other teams losing for once.
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Dec 14, 2003 23:08:32 GMT 1
No decision yet as far as I know, i've heard that the Witton Albion ground can hold 1600 visitors so it might well be all ticket
It's roughly the same distance as Chester and on a public holiday too so interest is bound to be quite high
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Post by FrankwellCP on Dec 14, 2003 23:22:42 GMT 1
Ant your defense of Quinn constantly is admirable but strange. He has and continues to make odd team selections tactical judgement and should not be playing himself. He came here to manage the team, not attempt to prove to himself, like some struggling cassinova losing his touch with the women, that he can still do it on the pitch. He is using our team to feed that massive ego and that idiot assistant is stroking it to. Sorry nobody can tell me he is at least better than Ratcliffe, because the division we are in and the squad that we have we should be top two, without doubt. Why are we not top two, the management team They don't know what they are doing and it is not a very happy camp.
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