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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Dec 14, 2003 20:23:19 GMT 1
Utterly abysmal. No imagination, no skill, no cohesion and no committment. I accept that it was a poor pitch but there's no excusing the overall poorness of the match. We should have been comfortable after an early penalty but Rodgers put it at least 6 yards wide of the goal.
It's hard to remember any other rear chances first half. Quinn blazed out of the ground when clear after good work by Aiston but that was prettymuch the sum total of the first half.
Just before half time a Margate player took a speculative shot that skidded up in front of Howie who spilled it on the edge of his six yard box. The ball was free and the Margate player slid in to claim it but made contact with the prone Howie. Ref blew for a clear free kick but inexplicably also produced a red card. Was one of the most disgraceful refereeing decision I've ever seen and most of the margate fans around me where as stunned as I was.
Town really should have kicked on inthe second half and won the game comfortably but it was impossible to tell who had ten men. Townhuffed and puffed in midfeild without doing much and Margate dfended well but neither team even threatened to look like scoring.
Time was running out when Lowe skipped down the right, cut inside and drilled it low under the keeper resulting in most of the terrace behind the goal going mental. Deep iinto stopage time and Margate won a corner. Their keper went up for it and after the move broke down town cleared long to Banim who fought off the defender and (just!!) rolled it in to the still empty net from about 30 yards.
A very dissapointing match which the result cannot mask. Too many players just didn't turn up.
Howie had nothing to do and the rest of the defence were sound. Aiston looked lively first half but the midfield really missed Tolley afte he went off. Rodgers was an absolute disgrace and really out to be sold before his value drops to nothing!!!
Only positives were Banim's first goal and Lowe's excelent finish. Man of the Match has to go to Lowe (who was the best of a very poor bunch) for his running and his goal but things really need to improve if we're to have any chance of catching Chester
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Post by ShrewsAde on Dec 14, 2003 20:47:41 GMT 1
Blinin 'Eck SES, I was having a good day up til reading this.
Sounds like the same as at Tamworth and Leigh.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Dec 14, 2003 21:04:35 GMT 1
count yourself lucky you didn't go one of the only positives for me was that I only had to drive back to Essex and not all the way to Shropshire!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2003 21:15:10 GMT 1
It was a very poor display but 3 points never the less.
Like Tamworth, we missed O'Connor and Tolley big time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2003 21:17:44 GMT 1
Just before half time a Margate player took a speculative shot that skidded up in front of Howie who spilled it on the edge of his six yard box. The ball was free and the Margate player slid in to claim it but made contact with the prone Howie. Ref blew for a clear free kick but inexplicably also produced a red card. Was one of the most disgraceful refereeing decision I've ever seen and most of the margate fans around me where as stunned as I was. Disagree completely with that quote, did you actually see the incident? The Margate lad found himself 6 yards out and should have scored but his incredibly poor touch let the ball roll to Howie who collected it. The Margate striker then lunged studs showing into Howie in what can only be described as a stupid challenge. I think red was maybe a little harsh but it was a stupid, late, rash challenge that needed to be punished. A couple of 'Gate fans near me ran to the bottom of the stand and when I thought they were going to give the ref some gyp, they started screaming at their own man at who utterly useless he was.
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Post by shrewforever on Dec 14, 2003 22:08:41 GMT 1
Yea must agree with that Loyal..............dont know where you watched it from Southeast mate but it was a disgraceful challenge with intent,cos he was angry with himself that he'd missed a sitter..............
I had three Margate fans behind me when I shouted"I say old chap that was a little harsh,surely referree he could be sent off for that"........................or words like that,cant exactly remember....... and after he went the Margate fans all agreed he had to go..................
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Dec 14, 2003 22:08:41 GMT 1
I was saying, "Good result- Wey-hey!!! I was a happy bunny before I read this. All I'd seen was the score and was just relieved thet got their three points at an away game- but- Oh, Dear!!!! (But to put it in perspective- when I'm driving home from work- and listening to Radio Merseyside sports programmes, you hear loads of complaints about the awful football from Everton- and even Liverpool fans- and a great deal of complaints about hoofing- it begs the question- is the standard of football slipping altogether?)
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Post by goindownthewylecop on Dec 14, 2003 22:39:44 GMT 1
Whats wrong with us?
Why is it that the players get on the coach they turn to s**t?
Why cant we play like we did against Hereford (sobs)
why why why why why why why why why why why
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Dec 14, 2003 22:53:55 GMT 1
just got back and that was abismal, unbelievably were 4th and a game in still i think, god knows what our tactics were, obviously it must be because it was a sunday and the players thought they don't have to work on a day of the sabbath If that performance was put on at the GM i would hate to hear the reaction from the crowd. PS. That Ruddy m25 went on forever.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Dec 14, 2003 22:55:24 GMT 1
also forgot to say BANIM "Outstanding Goal"
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Post by PorkyShrew on Dec 14, 2003 23:21:17 GMT 1
PS. That Ruddy m25 went on forever. Now theres a understatement.... it were ruddy aweful.... its a sunday for god sake! Thank god it was plain sailing(no pun intended after Luton.
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Post by MartinB on Dec 14, 2003 23:33:45 GMT 1
Just be thankful if don't have to use it for ever game, like some of us.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Dec 14, 2003 23:36:20 GMT 1
Todays journey around London village was as busy as any saturday, however just when you think you've cracked it a sign post appears " dover 85 miles"
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Post by SimonR on Dec 14, 2003 23:40:22 GMT 1
"No imagination, no skill, no cohesion and no committment."
I would have thought that it would be virtually impossible to win a game, no matter how badly you play, without showing committment - so your logic is flawed.
Committment helps the team to grind out results, whether by a single breakaway goal or in the dying seconds of the match. Without that valuable commodity the team is worthless.
Don't confuse lack of effort with simply having an off-day. If the team had really not tried, then they would have drawn at best and at worst got hammered.
Winning by two goals in the last ten minutes doesn't sound like the hallmark of an uncommitted team, does it?
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Post by PorkyShrew on Dec 14, 2003 23:43:51 GMT 1
hmmmm mate.... you travel 260 miles and watch that tripe for 85 minutes then you wud be saying same as us!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 14, 2003 23:57:11 GMT 1
1-0 to porky!
heck, that must be about 3-0, there's no coming back from that!
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Post by Exkeeper on Dec 15, 2003 0:19:40 GMT 1
I believe that when Quinn plays, we tend to hang in too many hopeful crosses towards the back stick, which are meat and drink to big central defenders, even those with limited ability.The only time it paid off today, was in the second half, when a deep cross was headed back across goal by JQ, for Rodgers to score, only for Lino to raise his flag. As soon as we play through their defence along the ground, Banim nearly scores, and then Ryan goes one better. As for the sending off, I was right behind it, and thought the ref had no choice, other than to show the lad a straight red.
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Post by Dale on Dec 15, 2003 0:44:08 GMT 1
I havent seen such a dour game in ages, we lacked creativity up front with Rodgers and Quinn strangely enough (cant remember us having any shot on target until Ryan scored), Luke will have to be dropped again for the Burton game I'm afraid, he's just not producing the goods. Margate's keeper looked a bit of a donkey and proved with his dodgy goal kicks and his fault for the second goal, it was funny to see him give a confusing stare to Bizzy following more scarf throwing after another Jimmy Quinn miss
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Post by SimonR on Dec 15, 2003 1:03:51 GMT 1
PorkyShrew-
I am trying to point out the fact that winning games in the last few minutes doesn't sound like the act of an uncommitted team, more like one that grinds out results that they perhaps don't deserve while playing below par. Even Man Utd have done it a few times in their numerous championship seasons.
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Post by texmexshrew on Dec 15, 2003 1:34:31 GMT 1
I agree with Simon on this one.
The commitment is there. We have won a couple games now, late on. Tamworth @ home springs to mind too.
Its the lack of quality & cohesion which can be debated.
Good to hear Bizzy is still a nutcase!! ;D
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Post by Pilch on Dec 15, 2003 1:46:14 GMT 1
as a keeper some of my worst injuries have been from players sliding in
they hurt and can break bones and too right he saw the red card
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Post by skipwithrob on Dec 15, 2003 2:17:34 GMT 1
If Jody lost controll of the ball, had to slide tackle the man to get it back and then just rolled the ball in from 35 yards, then where the hell was the keeper? Sounds like he had an age to get back, are you sure Pilch wasn't between the mArgate sticks? It would explain everything
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Dec 15, 2003 10:06:48 GMT 1
Agree that the keeper was woefully slow in getting back but I think he gave up as soon as the ball was hoofed clear for Banim's goal. In all honesty he'd had a bit of a mare all afternoon and his kicking was abysmal.
I'm sorry I can't agree that the red card was justified. I was standing directly behind the goal on the first step of terracing (IE no more than 10-15 yards away from the incident). The player went for a loose ball as he had every right to do and think a red was a very harsh decision. Was no doubt it was a foul cos it was a clumsy challenge and he caught Howie with his studs but, as I saw it, and given the state of the pitch I expected him to be given the benefit of the doubt with a talking to or at most a yellow.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2003 11:24:23 GMT 1
Anyone remember Torpey going right through Dunbavin (I think) at the Meadow a couple of years back?
He should have seen red then.
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Post by skipwithrob on Dec 15, 2003 12:13:51 GMT 1
Was he playing for Sc***horpe and was it the season after Sam had what can only be described as mindlessly broken their left backs leg?
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Post by Salop_Ian on Dec 15, 2003 12:31:33 GMT 1
The "worst performance in years"!!!!
Where have you been since 1997.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Dec 15, 2003 12:34:35 GMT 1
I've been watching regularly since '89. I think my title was a little off the mark but I still hadn't calmed down despite a 90 min drive home was incredibly frustrating though and downright unacceptable
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Post by skipwithrob on Dec 15, 2003 12:48:09 GMT 1
Downright unacceptable to win an away game in mid December 2-0???
In that case what in acceptable? To play well and lose to a 90th minute goal?
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Dec 15, 2003 12:53:33 GMT 1
were you actually at the game?
It was embarrassingly bad - two late goals cannot mask that. Things must improve. We can't simply accept that that was ok just because we won. Results are important yes, but so is performace and yesterday's was not good enough. Simple as.
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Post by Selleck on Dec 15, 2003 12:56:07 GMT 1
Nobody seems to have given any credit at all to Margate who, despite not having that much in the way of skill, have been well organised and have worked extremely hard in both games against us.
The way they continued to try and come at us with only 10 men was very commendable.
Yes, we failed to gel and too often lacked quality on a poor surface. But if you were at Boston last season, then you wouldn't have to look back further than 12 months to find a far more shameful performance.
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