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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Jan 17, 2007 14:40:58 GMT 1
Hi everyone,
shrewsTRUST would like to know your opinons on kick off times.
As we are aware, a number of matches have been moved due to two main reasons:
Security issues evoked by the police Gary Peters giving his squad an extra days preparation time ahead of a midweek fixture:
Could you give us your views by adding to this thread. Also could you take part in the two polls on the site.
Should games be moved from Saturday's to Friday nights to aid the teams preparations.
Do you prefer Friday Night games to Saturday's.
Thank you very much for taking part.
Adrian Plimmer
Interim Board Member - Supporters/Club Liaison shrewsTRUST
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Post by monkeechicken on Jan 17, 2007 14:44:45 GMT 1
as i have kids at school, i like the friday matches. i cant see it being popular with exiles tho
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 17, 2007 14:57:17 GMT 1
I like Friday or matchs everynow and again
If this manager thinks it helps then i dont see the problem every now and again with it....
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 17, 2007 14:59:24 GMT 1
Also can i add that at the end of the day its nothing to do with us....
The Club would not do it if it hurt attendances
The Manger and Players would not be up for it unless it helped
Whats going to happen if your polls show that people dont like Firday kicks off... are you going to tell Gary Peters to stop them??? Shurly its a matter for the manager and the club???
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Post by BurbageShrew on Jan 17, 2007 15:00:45 GMT 1
I enjoy the Friday night matches and feel that the atmosphere should work in our favour (fewer away fans) although this could also be a negative.
As an exile myself (Leicesterhsire) it is not such a problem as I work in Birmingham so can easily get over after work. I can imagine those that live further away would not be too happy, especially if like me they are season ticket holders, but unlike me can not get to the Meadow so easily.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Jan 17, 2007 15:02:08 GMT 1
Whilst I appreciate GP trying to give his team every advantage possible, I wonder how long before other teams start doing it to us?
I remember last season when we played Boston away on a Wednesday evening and GP complaining bitterly how that worked against us as we had a days less recovery time than our Saturday opponents who had played on the Tuesday evening.
I think consideration has to be given here to the travelling supporters (that includes exiles of the home side). Many can't make it back on a Friday night.
Also, many people who bought a season ticket at the start of the season, would not have done so had they known so many games would be changed to Friday night / midweek as they can only make Saturday games due to working patterns.
The atmosphere may seem better on a Friday night game to some (personally I'd argue that, Barnet for example), but give me a Saturday 3pm game anytime.
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Post by faginy on Jan 17, 2007 15:05:21 GMT 1
i'm in favour of all home games being friday night kick-offs.
what a brilliant start to a weekend, and it's amazing what difference it makes to have a full saturday and sunday to do other things.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 17, 2007 15:23:58 GMT 1
I like Friday evening games, but only occasionally.
They make it more difficult for families to attend, and for people travelling a distance.
Having said that plenty of people work Saturdays now, but are free on Friday evenings to go to a game.
Agree with faginy that it is also nice to have the rest of the weekend free, or at least to have more time to concentrate on other commitments.
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Post by jontifree on Jan 17, 2007 15:31:44 GMT 1
Love Friday nights, love Tuesday nights. Saturdays I referee so cannot attend as much as I used to.
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Jan 17, 2007 15:57:32 GMT 1
I would find Friday nights difficult. I have been to a few, yes- but only when Mr W is willing to take me, and to call for Leah en route. There's no way he would let me take the car myself. If I go by train, I need to make arrangements to stay with the family at Hinstock, which means my son-in-law coming to pick up Leah and I. No busses run on the Market Drayton route after 5-15pm, only one for nightclubbers- and it stops at Shawbury. Last train I can catch leaves at 9:30pm It is an impossible situtation. I just wouldn't get to many matches if they were ALL Friday 7:45 kick-offs. But, I suppose it's what is better for most people. There are not too many exiles- and those that do attend have their own transport. I would be very unhappy though!!
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Post by robshrew1984 on Jan 17, 2007 16:04:15 GMT 1
I think people should leave the running of the club to the manger & the chairman.
It's them who get paid to make decisions like that, and up to us to respect these decisions & get on with supporting the club.
I for one love the Friday games, so much more atmosphere, and leaves all day saturday to get on with other things.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jan 17, 2007 16:11:43 GMT 1
Prefer Saturday, Friday night games mean I leave the house at 0630 get in for 15 minutes before having to leave again for the match getting back in after 2200hrs is a hell of a long day.
Secondly dont think the club gives a fig about the fans in this particular issue. I guess sometimes the need of the club comes first.
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Post by Steve Rogerson on Jan 17, 2007 16:43:21 GMT 1
I prefer Saturday because I live away from Shrewsbury and I cannot do an evening game without staying in a hotel in Shrewsbury over night. That said, if GP thinks it improves our chances of winning when we have mid-week games then that has to take preference.
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Post by onewheel on Jan 17, 2007 18:29:16 GMT 1
I agree with faginy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2007 19:23:39 GMT 1
I like Friday or matchs everynow and again If this manager thinks it helps then i dont see the problem every now and again with it.... My view exactly
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2007 19:34:23 GMT 1
No real problem with it myself but club need to be careful not to p**s off a loyal minority.
What's the plan with the results of this poll?
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Post by El Presidente on Jan 17, 2007 19:50:06 GMT 1
I like fridays on the odd occasion, I agree the atmosphere has that something extra - I guess probably just because it is different to a Sat... But i Have to say, being a traditionalist AND an Exile, I would prefer Sat 3pm KOs in general - because that is what Sat afternoons are for, and also because I am better able to make those games.
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Post by ShrewsandRoyals on Jan 17, 2007 19:50:11 GMT 1
Saturday 3pm.
Friday is too late a finish to expect young kids to freeze at night and they are the future supporters of the club.
Forget getting to a Friday night game from south of Brum on the M6 when people don't finish work until nearly 6pm. Also, for us, it would mean a 5 and 7 year old not getting home until gone midnight.
With traffic jams the timing is ridiculously tight even if time off is used and tight timing makes parking a serious issue on top - it's not worth the hassle.
Also unfair to travelling supporters. I know that from the games that I haven't been able to get to due to Sky moving Reading games.
Certainly - Friday night games would lose season ticket sales here and Mr S&R with the Minis would have no option (or logical arguement against) having to accompany me to watch Reading.
Selfish mode says do it, play Friday - I win the football arrangements fight. If the aim is for our family to be putting money into the Shrewsbury Town and support the team Friday nights is no go.
Besides - bringing forward games to a Friday you get less recovery time from the Tuesday game. Why not play Wednesday instead of bringing it forward to Friday? - In days of old Reading midweek games were always Wednesday.
With odd days in the week one is going to be a two day and one a three day recovery when you play twice. Which ever way round so this makes me feel this is nothing to do with recovery time. This is to do with trying to disrupt the arrangements of other teams so that they have to change their routine to one that Town would be used to isn't it GP........The visitors will also have less support to cheer them on won't they......
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Post by DBoy on Jan 17, 2007 19:55:41 GMT 1
For me, kick off is Saturday @ 3pm. Although the odd Friday night is pretty sound, 3pm Saturday will always be focal point of the weekend.
I bought my season ticket whilst I was a Londoner. If I was still a Londoner I'd be missing a shed-load of games.
Saturday 3pm!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2007 21:06:51 GMT 1
"Why not play Wednesday instead of bringing it forward to Friday? - In days of old Reading midweek games were always Wednesday."
Exactly what I was thinking when reading the shrewstrust questions pinned to the top of this board.
I won't be attending any Friday night games, and neither will the old man.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Jan 17, 2007 22:17:47 GMT 1
I believe I'm right in saying Sue that GP is doing this on weeks where we haven't had a preceeding Tuesday night game. That is certainly the case this week, therefore it is a logical argument of his on recovery times.
That said I do agree with your reading of GP's mind on more disruption to an away teams arrangements and that less away fans will be at the game to voice their support. GP, once a member of the crazy gang? You'd never guess! ;D
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Post by ShrewsandRoyals on Jan 17, 2007 23:15:00 GMT 1
I believe I'm right in saying Sue that GP is doing this on weeks where we haven't had a preceeding Tuesday night game. That is certainly the case this week, therefore it is a logical argument of his on recovery times. That said I do agree with your reading of GP's mind on more disruption to an away teams arrangements and that less away fans will be at the game to voice their support. GP, once a member of the crazy gang? You'd never guess! ;D You don't think this is dipping the toe in the water for a permanent arrangement then? The thread asked " do you prefer Friday Night games to Saturdays?" That's a question slanted at a considering it permanent as I read it. That may or may not have been the intention, but would fit in with a justification for less disruption, prior knowledge, if GP is trying to set it up. Shall we arrange a STASFC (plus others) day out to Reading on a free Saturday when there's less interest, and a chance of tickets, if it happens? They have a supporters team! (Sky permitting of course.. ). We could be "twinned" - now that would be some fun PR!
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Post by skinner on Jan 18, 2007 0:05:05 GMT 1
from a personal point of view,friday night games are a pain as i can't make the majority, only managed 1 this season and won't be able to go this friday which is annoying as a season ticket holder.
I won't be buying a season ticket next season either as i can't justify beiing out of pocket again.I will only be able to make about 18-19 home games this season at a cost of £14.50ish a game whereas i could of gone for £13 a game at my leisure.(unless i'm barking up wrong tree and it's more than £13 to get in now,i havn't noticed tbh)
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Post by bizzylad on Jan 18, 2007 0:19:31 GMT 1
Im a traditionalist Saturday 3pm all the way for me with the exception of the odd friday night game its just what saturdays are all about few pints with your mates then down the meadow for about ten past three then back in the pub for the post match synopsis can see why GP is doing it but think of the fans first
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 0:23:38 GMT 1
Couldn't agree more Bizzy lad, well put :-)
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Post by timgallon on Jan 18, 2007 1:13:22 GMT 1
For me Saturday is football, remember the magazine When Saturday Comes - thats what its all about.
I dont want us become a team like Tranmere who play on a Fridays all the time. If this trend continued i dont know if i would bother remaining a season ticket holder, it would be too much rushing after work every other weekend.
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Post by exile on Jan 18, 2007 9:10:36 GMT 1
I'm a season ticket holder and I have a 3 hour trip up when the traffic is good, more than that when its bad like rush hour friday. When I got my ticket I did so knowing I wouldn't be able to make tuesday night matches but thought the weekends should be ok. I have been able to get some afternoons off to get up for the friday games so far but its not something that I can keep doing and I will be thinking hard about whether to get one next year.
Having said that friday night games are normally ok, but i prefer when there are more away fans for a better atmosphere - and I don't think reducing the number of away fans is part of the reason for switching games as we need everyone through the turnstiles we can.
For me the games should be 3 o'clock saturday and with the extra hassle that getting to games is going to be next year with limited parking nearby it is really the only way I can justify getting a season ticket.
It would be interesting to see the geographical spread of our fans as I imagine that a large proportion don't live or work in town and that does make evening games alot more hassle
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jan 18, 2007 10:51:12 GMT 1
I am presuming that the rash of friday games is because the pitch needs additional time to recover and the groundstaff need another day to work on it. In addition the players benefit from extra rest after playing on an unusually heavy surface.
Therefore the situation could be for this season only and will not be repeated next season when we will have a much better pitch.
If this presumption is correct the club needs to make a statment confirming it.
I agree with the points that others have made about the problems with friday games.
The club should not alienate supporters by unnecessarily moving from the traditional kick off time.
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Post by Dale on Jan 18, 2007 13:19:03 GMT 1
I am a season ticket holder who doesnt work weekends but has to take time off if I want to attend evening fixtures as I work weekday evenings, this year I have made a pledge to myself not to attend so many Tuesday night games so I can save some of my 20 days of holiday entitlement on other things eg a holiday! So when I find a couple more fixtures that should be played on a Saturday afternoon moved to a Friday night has hacked me off immensely and if I didnt have a season ticket the club would be losing my bit of money for the Bristol Rovers and Peterborough games at least, if Friday night games are to become a regular thing then I have to question myself whether a season ticket would be really worth purchasing in the future.
Friday night games are alright in moderation, maybe one every three months or so, but two Saturday home games in the space of two weeks have both been moved to a Friday night and that is over the top and more consideration needs to be given to the supporters.
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Jan 18, 2007 14:33:32 GMT 1
why do we play on TUESDAYS..? some clubs play WEDNESDAYS.... cant we play the odd Sunday game, or is that a day of rest..?
Personally I prefer Mondays !!
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