mahoney
Shropshire County League
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Post by mahoney on Apr 29, 2024 11:49:44 GMT 1
Hoping the National League just do the right thing and order the clubs by size of gate next season and promote the two highest accordingly, saving the need for any football to be played. Happy to see new clubs with smaller fanbases getting in the league but I don't want too many Crawleys.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 29, 2024 12:16:29 GMT 1
They say that the Championship play off final is one of the biggest and most lucrative in World football but for me the National League final is the biggest especially when it is between two clubs who have never experienced league football before. What a great prospect for the supporters and the people behind the scenes many of whom will have been volunteers for many many years. Proper football. So who are we backing? Surely Solihull Moors, as it's a much easier place to travel to if we draw them in a Cup game?
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Post by northwestman on Apr 29, 2024 12:26:40 GMT 1
Hoping the National League just do the right thing and order the clubs by size of gate next season and promote the two highest accordingly, saving the need for any football to be played. Happy to see new clubs with smaller fanbases getting in the league but I don't want too many Crawleys. Crawley are in the League 2 playoffs! Harrogate weren't too far away either. That said, I'd shed no tears if Fleetwood and Salford were the two relegated to the National League next season. Both are Clubs with very small crowds that have been bankrolled by Piley or Neville and his mates. With Piley now in jail and Fleetwood owing him many millions they surely must already be struggling. Their accounts make very interesting reading. find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06989818/filing-history
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 29, 2024 12:31:13 GMT 1
Happy to see new clubs with smaller fanbases getting in the league but I don't want too many Crawleys. Crawley are in the League 2 playoffs! Harrogate weren't too far away either. That said, I'd shed no tears if Fleetwood and Salford were the two relegated to the National League next season. Both are Clubs with very small crowds that have been bankrolled by Piley or Neville and his mates. With Piley now in jail and Fleetwood owing him many millions they surely must already be struggling. Their accounts make very interesting reading. find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06989818/filing-history
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 29, 2024 12:34:21 GMT 1
I would back Solihull Moors who have been there or thereabouts for a few seasons. Could be in same league as Birmingham City soon. That would be an interesting derby game.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Apr 29, 2024 12:58:52 GMT 1
Hoping the National League just do the right thing and order the clubs by size of gate next season and promote the two highest accordingly, saving the need for any football to be played. Happy to see new clubs with smaller fanbases getting in the league but I don't want too many Crawleys. Would like Crawley to get promoted as would be my nearest game. They have potential with a large catchment area. Considering they started the season with virtually no players, they have done fantastically well to reach the play offs.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 29, 2024 13:07:40 GMT 1
The play offs in National Leagues North and South have been quite a contrast.
In the South, 4 games, 12 goals and Worthing v Braintree in the final.
In the North, 4 games produced only 1 goal (in 7.5 hours of play - must be taking lessons off us) and Brackley v Boston in the final, with Boston there courtesy of two 5-4 penalty shoot out wins.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 14:06:42 GMT 1
They say that the Championship play off final is one of the biggest and most lucrative in World football but for me the National League final is the biggest especially when it is between two clubs who have never experienced league football before. What a great prospect for the supporters and the people behind the scenes many of whom will have been volunteers for many many years. Proper football. So who are we backing? Surely Solihull Moors, as it's a much easier place to travel to if we draw them in a Cup game? Dont give a stuff tbh. Doubt either will be a FL side in 10 years time, or less
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 14:08:01 GMT 1
Hoping the National League just do the right thing and order the clubs by size of gate next season and promote the two highest accordingly, saving the need for any football to be played. Happy to see new clubs with smaller fanbases getting in the league but I don't want too many Crawleys. Arent Crawley just such a club that you say you dont want. Or is there something about them I'm not aware of?
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 29, 2024 14:43:38 GMT 1
I'm disappointed that Altrincham didn't make it.
Barnet finish second in the league but fail to reach the final, that's the play offs for you.
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mahoney
Shropshire County League
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Post by mahoney on Apr 29, 2024 16:01:16 GMT 1
Happy to see new clubs with smaller fanbases getting in the league but I don't want too many Crawleys. Arent Crawley just such a club that you say you dont want. Or is there something about them I'm not aware of? I've always seen them as a new town club who would not be anywhere near the football league without significant cash injections. A bit like the Andy Shaw situation, although that didn't quite go to plan. As a consequence a large part of their fanbase is made up of plastic fans that aren't emotionally attached in the way we are. Obviously there will be a core support that have been there for years and are very invested in the club. On another scale Bournemouth in the prem no way they'd be there without the Russian money and it leaves the club looking a bit soulless, which we know deep down is not the case. Again, I'm not saying small clubs shouldn't be able to get to the prem, but maybe some financial barriers should be removed so this can happen organically rather them relying on questionable cash. Btw, genuinely interested by this conversation, challenging some of my long held views regarding Morecambe, Fleetwood, fgr, Rushden and diamonds, etc. that maybe one been wrong on.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 16:55:49 GMT 1
Arent Crawley just such a club that you say you dont want. Or is there something about them I'm not aware of? I've always seen them as a new town club who would not be anywhere near the football league without significant cash injections. A bit like the Andy Shaw situation, although that didn't quite go to plan. As a consequence a large part of their fanbase is made up of plastic fans that aren't emotionally attached in the way we are. Obviously there will be a core support that have been there for years and are very invested in the club. On another scale Bournemouth in the prem no way they'd be there without the Russian money and it leaves the club looking a bit soulless, which we know deep down is not the case. Again, I'm not saying small clubs shouldn't be able to get to the prem, but maybe some financial barriers should be removed so this can happen organically rather them relying on questionable cash. Btw, genuinely interested by this conversation, challenging some of my long held views regarding Morecambe, Fleetwood, fgr, Rushden and diamonds, etc. that maybe one been wrong on. I guess you see Crawley similar to what I see in Solihull, Bromley, Sutton, Forest Green. Ie too small (without funding) to ever challenge to get into the FL. I'd agree about Crawley. I can see far more clubs doing a 'Rushden' in future years, that is why i say they bring nothing or very little to the FL. Basically too many clubs with foundations built on sand.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 29, 2024 17:07:22 GMT 1
In terms of best supported teams in the national league this season, Bromley come 10th, average 2,637, Solihull Motors are down in 20th, 1,445.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 17:22:02 GMT 1
In terms of best supported teams in the national league this season, Bromley come 10th, average 2,637, Solihull Motors are down in 20th, 1,445. Another reason they wont enhance the FL. Not exactly going to be sell outs very often at either ground whoever gets to go up.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Apr 29, 2024 17:29:26 GMT 1
In terms of best supported teams in the national league this season, Bromley come 10th, average 2,637, Solihull Motors are down in 20th, 1,445. Well that's that settled then - COME ON BROMLEY!!!!!
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 29, 2024 17:29:50 GMT 1
Tough one for me. Bromley would be a new ground if we got them in a Cup, (I did Solihull for a Town Friendly a few years back) but it is a far easier trip to Solihull. Good for the plane spotters too, just at the end of the Birmingham Airport runway.
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Post by DiglisShrew on Apr 29, 2024 19:49:54 GMT 1
I’m off to the final on Sunday - any other Salopians going ? Pleased o purchased mine before the finalists were known . Concession ticket then £10 / now £35 !!
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Post by gobowenshrew on Apr 29, 2024 19:58:26 GMT 1
Followed Solihull Moors with interest this season, in fact I'm going to the FA Trophy final in a couple of weeks.
What was to be their first ever appearance at Wembley will now be their second trip to the National stadium in seven days.
Gotta love non-league football.
Might have something to do with the fact Bromley had announced selling over 7500 tickets for the Playoff final earlier today, by which time Solihull had only shifted 1000.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Apr 29, 2024 20:49:30 GMT 1
The play offs in National Leagues North and South have been quite a contrast. In the South, 4 games, 12 goals and Worthing v Braintree in the final. In the North, 4 games produced only 1 goal (in 7.5 hours of play - must be taking lessons off us) and Brackley v Boston in the final, with Boston there courtesy of two 5-4 penalty shoot out wins. Been to 7 Worthing games this season and seen 37 goals! Can’t complain about the entertainment. Hoping to get ticket for the play off final next Monday home to Braintree and see if they get into National League for first time. Would be great achievement though would probably be the whipping boys next season.
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Apr 30, 2024 7:48:51 GMT 1
Will be cheering on Gavin Cowan’s Brackley at the weekend in The NL North play off final vs Boston.
Game is live on TNT. Be good to see our ITS mucka Gav get back into the National League.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 30, 2024 9:16:46 GMT 1
In terms of best supported teams in the national league this season, Bromley come 10th, average 2,637, Solihull Motors are down in 20th, 1,445. Another reason they wont enhance the FL. Not exactly going to be sell outs very often at either ground whoever gets to go up. I expect there will be plenty of Championship fans who say similar about us if we ever got back into that level (no chance of that happening any time soon!). Small club, small ground, small away followings,,don't enhance the Championship
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Post by Pilch on Apr 30, 2024 9:23:03 GMT 1
I’m off to the final on Sunday - any other Salopians going ? Pleased o purchased mine before the finalists were known . Concession ticket then £10 / now £35 !! as wrong as that sounds there is method in the madness for a game that will never be a sell out, I think I like the idea
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Apr 30, 2024 10:51:01 GMT 1
I'm disappointed that Altrincham didn't make it. Barnet finish second in the league but fail to reach the final, that's the play offs for you. Local opinion is that it was too early for Alty and they need to continue the steady build up of the past few seasons, this season was much more successful than predicted. They have only been full time for a couple of years and the switch was partly crowd funded with supporters getting shares in return, it has the feel of a community club and there’s a lot of goodwill locally. This is a mainly United area and getting more of those fans to Moss Lane is a challenge. No doubt Alty in the FL would result in lots of grumping from Grizzly but if you look at their history there are many occasions when they have come close to FL status and if they do so it will be on merit and without the backing of a sugar daddy.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 30, 2024 11:17:41 GMT 1
I'm disappointed that Altrincham didn't make it. Barnet finish second in the league but fail to reach the final, that's the play offs for you. Local opinion is that it was too early for Alty and they need to continue the steady build up of the past few seasons, this season was much more successful than predicted. They have only been full time for a couple of years and the switch was partly crowd funded with supporters getting shares in return, it has the feel of a community club and there’s a lot of goodwill locally. This is a mainly United area and getting more of those fans to Moss Lane is a challenge. No doubt Alty in the FL would result in lots of grumping from Grizzly but if you look at their history there are many occasions when they have come close to FL status and if they do so it will be on merit and without the backing of a sugar daddy. I used to live in Alty and go to a few games in the early 80s was a good non league set up then. I don’t really get this who should and shouldn’t get promoted to the league. When you look at some of the clubs who come and go they all add to the history of the EFL. Do people think of Wigan as a newcomer whose owners bought success? Maybe some are a bit jealous. Crawley have been around nearly 130 years yet are thought of as newcomers.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Apr 30, 2024 11:41:36 GMT 1
As a Shropshire fan......good luck to Telford tonight
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 30, 2024 11:45:38 GMT 1
No doubt Alty in the FL would result in lots of grumping from Grizzly but if you look at their history there are many occasions when they have come close to FL status and if they do so it will be on merit and without the backing of a sugar daddy. No issues at all about Alty coming up. They are a long established club who have played in the 5th tier for many of the years since it was established in 1979. The clubs I feel are not bringing much to the FL are the ones who have come up from several levels down and are currently riding the wave. Every club has its ultimate level and those who are on the chest of the wave now are likely to fall off it in the not too distant future (a la FGR and Sutton) and disappear back to where they have come from or are funded by a sugar daddy and become the next Rushden. Was hoping Halifax (1st choise) or Alty (2nd) made it up. Alas not to be, so I'm not bothered who makes it up now.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 30, 2024 11:47:11 GMT 1
As a Shropshire fan......good luck to Telford tonight Yes let's hope they get to the final Not quite sure if I'd think the same about them winning it if they get there though
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Post by vladimir on Apr 30, 2024 11:54:32 GMT 1
As a Shropshire fan......good luck to Telford tonight As a Salopian, best of luck to Mickleover Sports tomorrow, all fingers and toes crossed and all lucky charms deployed.
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Post by essofsteel on Apr 30, 2024 12:08:16 GMT 1
Don't Telford play tomorrow?
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Post by hectord0g137 on Apr 30, 2024 12:10:53 GMT 1
Hmmmm?? You may have a point
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