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Post by Valerioch on Apr 5, 2024 10:27:20 GMT 1
I know people who are still shielding 🤷♂️ I’d suggest they need some mental help and support - that is genuinely worrying
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 5, 2024 10:34:04 GMT 1
It depends on their reasons.
If they have been given medical advice to be be careful then why would they not take it?
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 5, 2024 13:09:08 GMT 1
It depends on their reasons. If they have been given medical advice to be be careful then why would they not take it? surely the mental affect of shielding for years is more detrimental than jabbed-up covid affects? Strange one
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 5, 2024 13:17:01 GMT 1
It can only depend on what the doctors recommend and why.
All I am saying is that I have been advised to be very careful while having treatment and to have any jab that is offered in future. I have also stated here that the thought of delayed treatment due to having covid would affect me far more than anything else. Trust me I want all this over and done with asap.
I truly think that, unless we know someone’s personal circumstances, any decision has to be up to them.
People who are still shielding may be elderly, vulnerable for health reasons or even have known people who died or were very ill. It really has to be an individual decision and not one that outsiders should criticise.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 5, 2024 15:36:06 GMT 1
I know people who are still shielding 🤷♂️ I’d suggest they need some mental help and support - that is genuinely worrying The effects of the media overhype I'm afraid.
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Post by sorex on Apr 5, 2024 20:07:57 GMT 1
I’d suggest they need some mental help and support - that is genuinely worrying The effects of the media overhype I'm afraid.
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Post by suttonshrew on Apr 5, 2024 21:12:38 GMT 1
3 times for me, 2 no problems at all but the one time a year last November was probably the most horrendous experience I’ll ever go through. Rushed to A&E unable to breathe, my wife and parent basically told they didn’t know if I’d survive the night, and a respirator on standbye.
What I went through has totally changed not only my outlook on life but the way I deal with people. Anyone who doubts covid should have spent the 3 weeks in hospital with me recovering, in that time 5 guys in by ‘block of beds’ sadly lost their lives.
Without the jab I honestly believe I wouldn’t be here now.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 5, 2024 21:46:27 GMT 1
I would like your post but it doesn’t seem quite the right thing to do. Let me just say it’s good to know you recovered but so sad for those who didn’t.
i know what you mean about changing an outlook on life and people as well.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 6, 2024 8:20:19 GMT 1
Twice. First time it led to Pleurisy and then some scarring of one lung. Had to go for regular CT scans, and at one point was put on the cancer 2 week pathway leading to a PET scan, eventually got the all clear about 16 months later. The second time I was rough for about 10 days, another week to fully get over it. Touch wood been ok since. Fortunately my wife and family were ok. That sounds horrible I'm glad to hear you have recovered
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 6, 2024 8:26:40 GMT 1
Iv had COVID three times,all my family have had it, the second time was the worst it felt like I had broken glass in my eyes for a few days, every time I had it I felt wasted for about three weeks. My nice has long COVID and has all sorts of neurological problems since catching COVID, prior to COVID she was working, and would swim. 30 lengths of the pool, she is unable to work due to her health issues, my nephew has COVID lung and had to give up sports . This disease has caused a lot of suffering from bereavements to long term life changing health conditions, personally I think it was man made.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 6, 2024 9:25:30 GMT 1
Twice. First time it led to Pleurisy and then some scarring of one lung. Had to go for regular CT scans, and at one point was put on the cancer 2 week pathway leading to a PET scan, eventually got the all clear about 16 months later. The second time I was rough for about 10 days, another week to fully get over it. Touch wood been ok since. Fortunately my wife and family were ok. That sounds horrible I'm glad to hear you have recovered Thank you.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 6, 2024 10:18:47 GMT 1
I know people who are still shielding 🤷♂️ I’d suggest they need some mental help and support - that is genuinely worrying could you explain that a bit further ?, im no doctor but I dont think people with mental issues are more susceptible to catching covid than someone who has no mental issues. this is from a site called disability news service Four years on from the identification of the virus, more than 1.2 million immunocompromised people are still believed to be at high risk because their conditions and medications make the Covid vaccines ineffective.
Many are either still shielding or living restricted lives, trapped in “enforced isolation”.
to me that sounds like they are at most risk if they catch the virus, and yet have not and cannot have the vaccine as if their lives were not already bad enough before covid arrived there is no wonder they are still having to shield from it
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 6, 2024 10:41:53 GMT 1
This can of worms again. I think I'll pass.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 6, 2024 10:56:12 GMT 1
This can of worms again. I think I'll pass. every few months, its compulsory on here for one or two to mock those worried about catching covid , even if its just a fun thread started by Jaytee asking how many times we've had covid
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 6, 2024 11:40:23 GMT 1
I personally know of 5 or 6 people who are immunocompromised who were advised to isolate, I'm guessing they still get told to to be very careful of doing anything which involves mixing.
All of those have had all the vaccines going, have still had Covid (all fairly mild symptoms no doubt due to the vaccines) and are all going about their lives as they were before all the media scare stories.
Those who are still isolating are basically just existing until they die of something whatever that is. You've only got one life, live it while you are here. Its certain at some point you will be gone however long away that is.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 6, 2024 11:59:46 GMT 1
I personally know of 5 or 6 people who are immunocompromised who were advised to isolate, I'm guessing they still get told to to be very careful of doing anything which involves mixing. All of those have had all the vaccines going, have still had Covid (all fairly mild symptoms no doubt due to the vaccines) and are all going about their lives as they were before all the media scare stories. Those who are still isolating are basically just existing until they die of something whatever that is. You've only got one life, live it while you are here. It's hat certain at some point you will be gone however long away that is. that very final line could have come straight out of the mouth of someone like Amy Winehouse
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 6, 2024 12:17:36 GMT 1
I personally know of 5 or 6 people who are immunocompromised who were advised to isolate, I'm guessing they still get told to to be very careful of doing anything which involves mixing. All of those have had all the vaccines going, have still had Covid (all fairly mild symptoms no doubt due to the vaccines) and are all going about their lives as they were before all the media scare stories. Those who are still isolating are basically just existing until they die of something whatever that is. You've only got one life, live it while you are here. It's hat certain at some point you will be gone however long away that is. that very final line could have come straight out of the mouth of someone like Amy Winehouse Correct. But she lived while she was alive, didnt sit around doing nothing just waiting till it happened. I know which way I want to go.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 6, 2024 12:20:36 GMT 1
For me, it’s a personal choice what to do and absolutely nobody else’s business.
To mock people is rude, unkind and unnecessary.
Once I’m over all the other effects of treatment I will be back to normal but that’s up to me and no one else.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 6, 2024 12:52:45 GMT 1
that very final line could have come straight out of the mouth of someone like Amy Winehouse Correct. But she lived while she was alive, didnt sit around doing nothing just waiting till it happened. I know which way I want to go. but why are you telling others to do it as well ?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 6, 2024 13:07:48 GMT 1
Correct. But she lived while she was alive, didnt sit around doing nothing just waiting till it happened. I know which way I want to go. but why are you telling others to do it as well ? Because in my mind that is the way to be. One life, live it. Fit in as much in the time you have. Dont hold back. That is what I'd say to anyone who had the conversation with me. Guess others feel differently though so I'll shut up.
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Post by philrouge on Apr 9, 2024 0:04:10 GMT 1
but why are you telling others to do it as well ? Because in my mind that is the way to be. One life, live it. Fit in as much in the time you have. Dont hold back. That is what I'd say to anyone who had the conversation with me. Guess others feel differently though so I'll shut up. I believe that Noto Wrexham fella does exactly what you are shouting from the rooftops with your big loud mouth for him to do. Incredible that You feel the need to hop onto your soapbox 3 times a week and have a go at him for doing exactly what you recommend.
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Post by Dancin on Apr 9, 2024 7:59:34 GMT 1
3 for me; Early December 2021 (caught of daughter who is a Teacher), October 2022 (Holiday in USA) and April 2023 (Trip to London)
Those are all def but was also very ill in September 2023 but didn't have any Covid tests left.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Apr 9, 2024 9:25:56 GMT 1
Got it once during the Delta variant when the Euros were on. Remember just feeling really lacklustre and groggy, there was a plus side to it though as I ended up losing a bit of weight due to the lack of an appetite.
Not sure how I haven't had it again - and I say this as a touch wood healthy individual - I would still test if I had symptoms and I was going to visit elderly relatives - think it's really selfish to not spend two minutes testing if it means stopping your relatives from getting covid.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 9, 2024 9:45:57 GMT 1
Got it once during the Delta variant when the Euros were on. Remember just feeling really lacklustre and groggy, there was a plus side to it though as I ended up losing a bit of weight due to the lack of an appetite. Not sure how I haven't had it again - and I say this as a touch wood healthy individual - I would still test if I had symptoms and I was going to visit elderly relatives - think it's really selfish to not spend two minutes testing if it means stopping your relatives from getting covid. Out of interest, if you had symptoms but the test said you didn't have covid, would you still go and visit your relatives?
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 9, 2024 10:01:16 GMT 1
For me, it’s a personal choice what to do and absolutely nobody else’s business. To mock people is rude, unkind and unnecessary. Once I’m over all the other effects of treatment I will be back to normal but that’s up to me and no one else. I completely agree that it's down to choice and no one should be mocked/abused for their choices. What I feel is a delicate & controversial subject though is when their personal choice has been massively influenced by society/the media/the messaging during the pandemic. If someone is in a high risk category and they wish to shield or take extra precaution then I can absolutely understand that. I don't know your circumstances but it sounds like the extra precautions are a temporary measure during some treatment, that sounds sensible (I'm well aware you don't need my approval!). The bit I would question is when someone is healthy and the risk of covid (or any other diseases) is extremely low to them but they still feel the need to wear a mask, take measures to avoid busy areas, etc. Again it's no-one elses business but personally I'd argue it's not healthy to live in a state of fear like that. It's nothing new of course, we have had people living like that long before covid
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 9, 2024 10:08:10 GMT 1
Not sure how I haven't had it again - and I say this as a touch wood healthy individual - I would still test if I had symptoms and I was going to visit elderly relatives - think it's really selfish to not spend two minutes testing if it means stopping your relatives from getting covid. Why test? If you've got something whether its Covid or not it's best to avoid passing on whatever it is to them. I dont need a test to be sensible.
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 9, 2024 10:10:53 GMT 1
Not sure how I haven't had it again - and I say this as a touch wood healthy individual - I would still test if I had symptoms and I was going to visit elderly relatives - think it's really selfish to not spend two minutes testing if it means stopping your relatives from getting covid. Why test? If you've got something whether its Covid or not it's best to avoid passing on whatever it is to them. I dont need a test to be sensible. I’ve had a cold on/off for over 3 months now, this echo chamber would have me locked up not seeing anybody… it’s interesting as my daily life through work/social does not replicate the tone of this thread in any way, I don’t know anybody who even thinks about covid anymore, let alone tests for it Maybe I have the dreaded long COVID!
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 9, 2024 10:17:28 GMT 1
No it wouldn’t expect you to see nobody or be locked up but it might hope you would avoid seeing people you know have suppressed immune systems be it temporary like me or permanent.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 9, 2024 10:39:17 GMT 1
Not sure how I haven't had it again - and I say this as a touch wood healthy individual - I would still test if I had symptoms and I was going to visit elderly relatives - think it's really selfish to not spend two minutes testing if it means stopping your relatives from getting covid. Why test? If you've got something whether its Covid or not it's best to avoid passing on whatever it is to them. I dont need a test to be sensible. A couple of months ago my wife had a cold and was talking about taking a covid test, I asked why would she? What difference does it make either way? Her dad had been in hospital not long before so she said she wouldn't want to see him if she had covid, I said she had a cold so should avoid him regardless of whether it came back positive or not. I can't help but feel there's an element of people just want to put a label on being ill. It's also interesting working in an office to see how things have changed. Prior to covid, if you had a cold you'd still be expected to come in (unless it was really serious), normally you'd be coughing & sneezing and of course the end result was you'd pass it on to people. Nowadays the first sign of someone having a cough/sneeze, they are expected to work from home.
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Post by shroppygold on Apr 9, 2024 11:31:33 GMT 1
Never had it officially . 99% sure I had it the December before lockdown. As a work colleague husband came home from far east and we all had our works Xmas do. She fell ill the next day and I had all the Covid symptoms maybe a tad worse.
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