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Post by martinshrew on Feb 14, 2024 13:33:05 GMT 1
Could be heading back to Sligo Rather him go National League, but appreciate this might be the easiest option.
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Post by Van Der Graaff on Feb 14, 2024 13:33:35 GMT 1
Freeing up the wage budget potentially for a free agent...?
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Feb 14, 2024 13:49:35 GMT 1
I think he is no put in mildly a lousy striker . No loss if he goes
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Post by harboroughshrew on Feb 14, 2024 14:18:01 GMT 1
Think the writing has been on the wall since Hurst came in and he has been sidelined. I dont like being too negative about players who are fairly new to the club but, despite trying his best, he just does not look a threat upfront for us at this level. Wish him all the best if he does go back to Ireland.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 14, 2024 14:27:29 GMT 1
To go against the grain slightly, I’d feel some regret if he was to depart with a whimper and without us seeing if Paul Hurst can get anything out of him in this more ambitious system. Yes he looked really poor under Taylor, but all our strikers were on a hiding to nothing there. Yet with Udoh being by far and away our best striker, I just can’t see him (or Bowman for that matter) getting many minutes.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 14, 2024 14:44:38 GMT 1
Can't say I am up on the standard over there in Ireland but it did look a step up for him and one I think he struggled with. With Udoh, Bowman and now O'Brien seemingly ahead of him in the pecking order I think it would make sense for him to head out on loan.
What exactly are our options now for bringing someone in? Free agents is mentioned above, is that it? Are we still able to bring players in on loan?
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 14, 2024 14:46:44 GMT 1
Signing any player is a risk especially a striker who will be judged on goals he scores. Remember signing Jamie Cureton a few seasons ago who had scored rucks of goals wherever he had been. Dont think he scored one for us. Mata was worth the risk and I am sure he did his best but it hasnt worked out with us. Wish him luck for the future.
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Post by chirkshrew on Feb 14, 2024 15:31:01 GMT 1
Who scouted him!!!!🤔🤔I know Taylor went over to watch him......poor signing by all involved,if he goes back🤷🤷🤷
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blueboy48
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Post by blueboy48 on Feb 14, 2024 16:12:26 GMT 1
He won't get a game with us so a good move for him and the club. I don't see us signing a replacement striker and time is running out to get any free agent up to speed.
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Post by belfastshrew on Feb 14, 2024 16:24:48 GMT 1
Look at Udoh. Who came from Telford(i think) and had two seasons of nothing of note...then over a summer bulked up and came into the season strong, fit, and up to L1 standard.
I see no reason why Mata wouldn't do the same, but could be elsewhere at this rate. The man has featured in New Zealands last 4 matches...he must have some potential within him.
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 14, 2024 16:37:19 GMT 1
Cunha now out for the rest of Wolves season and with transfer window closed they will rely heavily on Fraser so we can forget that.
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Post by plebb on Feb 14, 2024 17:24:28 GMT 1
Would much rather invest in him than Bowman
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Post by servernaside on Feb 14, 2024 18:01:02 GMT 1
I'm guessing it's easy to look good in a Sligo shirt when playing the likes of St Pat's Athletic
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 14, 2024 20:15:28 GMT 1
Feel a bit for the guy but I think the step up from the League of Ireland is too big, anyone any good from Ireland is already in the Premier League Academies - Just look at Killian Phillips (and he's had to go to Scotland now).
I predict the other two from Ireland will be out by the summer as well. That doesn't mean I don't want them to do well, its just what I've witnessed on the pitch.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Feb 14, 2024 20:21:12 GMT 1
I think that Mata possibly need to bulk up a bit to be more effective. Do worry if Udoh should get another injury, we’d be looking very short again, even with O’Brien and Bloxham back.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 14, 2024 20:29:51 GMT 1
I did think Mata might no succeed but a loan would be ideal for him , you never know it could still happen for him with us yet
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Post by Dale on Feb 15, 2024 6:35:49 GMT 1
I can’t see how going back to Sligo would be beneficial for his development, I’d rather he have been loaned out to a League 2/National League club to keep him in the English game and see how he develops at a lower level over here.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 15, 2024 9:52:35 GMT 1
I can’t see how going back to Sligo would be beneficial for his development, I’d rather he have been loaned out to a League 2/National League club to keep him in the English game and see how he develops at a lower level over here. League two isn't possible until the Summer. Ireland run a different league schedule, with their season about to start so brings about more possibilities. Agree would prefer him to go to National League though
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 15, 2024 9:55:36 GMT 1
Feel a bit for the guy but I think the step up from the League of Ireland is too big, anyone any good from Ireland is already in the Premier League Academies - Just look at Killian Phillips (and he's had to go to Scotland now). I predict the other two from Ireland will be out by the summer as well. That doesn't mean I don't want them to do well, its just what I've witnessed on the pitch. Interesting looking at Aidan Keena at Cheltenham too. Obviously brought in by Micky Moore this time last year from same club as Mata and did pretty well at the back of last season. This season though ....32 appearances in all comps. Not a single goal
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 15, 2024 9:57:12 GMT 1
I can’t see how going back to Sligo would be beneficial for his development, I’d rather he have been loaned out to a League 2/National League club to keep him in the English game and see how he develops at a lower level over here. Except we can’t do that now maybe no takers so turn to plan B. Better than his not playing again until August.
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Post by pughywasfree on Feb 15, 2024 10:53:28 GMT 1
He must be pants in training. I actually think he has been unlucky this season. He has had to deal with negative tactics and terrible service when he has been in the side. He had nobody to link up with and his confidence a hit. He finally scored a goal then was kept out of the team as Bowman scored a hatrick.
I defo think there is a decent striker in there. He is deceptively good in the air, has a good footballing brain and works hard. I am surprised Bowman has been preferred to him when I doubt Bowman will be here next season but Mata most likely will be.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 15, 2024 11:06:45 GMT 1
In regards to Bowman, I think Hurst is working in the here and now, keep us up, nothing more nothing less.
Hopefully Mata goes back to Ireland, bags 10 in 10 and comes back fit and confident and looks forward to a full pre-season.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 15, 2024 11:31:34 GMT 1
As Pilch says, a loan deal, it worked for Tom Bloxham. Plenty of time to see if he develops yet. Being discussed as a Hurst idea, but perhaps it's just coincidental that there's an opportunity to loan back as their season is just starting.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 15, 2024 11:49:47 GMT 1
The problem with the signing of him was that we needed a league one ready striker and we didn't get one.
This January Cambridge signed Taylor, Exeter signed Eisa, we signed no one.
When we signed Udoh we had Callum Laing, Steve Morrison, Jason Cummings and Okenabirie, we always knew Udoh was a cheap speculative punt and we could blood him sparingly.
This summer we were told up front was a priority and we needed a good player so we'd scouted this talent and he went almost straight into the first team.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 15, 2024 11:50:25 GMT 1
As Pilch says, a loan deal, it worked for Tom Bloxham. Plenty of time to see if he develops yet. Being discussed as a Hurst idea, but perhaps it's just coincidental that there's an opportunity to loan back as their season is just starting. It's one of the few options left to get him some game time at this stage of the season. Cant loan him to a L2 side, National league I'm not sure of, he wont be getting any game time with us as we dont have a reserve side.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 15, 2024 11:59:28 GMT 1
As Pilch says, a loan deal, it worked for Tom Bloxham. Plenty of time to see if he develops yet. Being discussed as a Hurst idea, but perhaps it's just coincidental that there's an opportunity to loan back as their season is just starting. It's one of the few options left to get him some game time at this stage of the season. Cant loan him to a L2 side, National league I'm not sure of, he wont be getting any game time with us as we dont have a reserve side. My theory, just as valid as all the other speculation on here, is that if we had landed our targets in the January window he would have gone on loan to one of the clubs you mentioned. When we didn't and we had Hurst incoming, it was decided to let Hurst have a look at him.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 15, 2024 12:27:03 GMT 1
The problem with the signing of him was that we needed a league one ready striker and we didn't get one. This January Cambridge signed Taylor, Exeter signed Eisa, we signed no one. When we signed Udoh we had Callum Laing, Steve Morrison, Jason Cummings and Okenabirie, we always knew Udoh was a cheap speculative punt and we could blood him sparingly. This summer we were told up front was a priority and we needed a good player so we'd scouted this talent and he went almost straight into the first team. I'd like to think we're a better prospect than Cambridge & Exeter, maybe not.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 15, 2024 15:25:41 GMT 1
Now confirmed
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kl8-2
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Post by kl8-2 on Feb 15, 2024 15:45:18 GMT 1
Good luck Max Mata, STFC legend.
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Post by bizzylad on Feb 15, 2024 16:03:52 GMT 1
Last weve seen of Mata in a Salop shirt i suspect , gap in standard too much for him , had a couple of decent moments but hes not good enough for this level.
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