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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 22, 2009 23:04:24 GMT 1
If the rumours about Grant Holt being sold are true it is a total disgrace by the club. No amount of money is enough as he is on a 3 year contract and would still be worth the same amount of money at the end of next season. If he has been sold, I hope the club will offer refunds to those who have purchased season tickets because I shall be at the front of the queue......
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Post by mrbunny on Jul 22, 2009 23:07:25 GMT 1
Nothing like a good overreaction on B&A.
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Post by RBA on Jul 22, 2009 23:11:11 GMT 1
If the rumours about Grant Holt being sold are true it is a total disgrace by the club. No amount of money is enough as he is on a 3 year contract and would still be worth the same amount of money at the end of next season. If he has been sold, I hope the club will offer refunds to those who have purchased season tickets because I shall be at the front of the queue...... its not impossible that we attracted him here in the first place by offering a release clause in his contract if a club from a higher league came in for him If the rumours are true we will find out soon enough
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Post by eggman on Jul 22, 2009 23:14:40 GMT 1
Great first post, you will fit in really well round here
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 22, 2009 23:20:10 GMT 1
Well I'm sorry but IF the rumours are true it is scandalous. It's not as if Holty is coming to the end of his career and we have to grab the money quick. We can get the required fee for him just as easily at the end of next season when he will still have 1 year left on his contract. Selling him now equates to selling any chance we have of promotion. IF it is true, it shows a total lack of ambition by the board.
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Post by mattmw on Jul 22, 2009 23:20:41 GMT 1
If Holt is leaving it seems yet another step in distancing the club from the fans - following the long line of issues including the clip art lion badge, the soverign club, changing the kits and the mess up over the contracts.
I'm not some nieve fan who expects to be told every detail of the clubs business but I really didn't see the whole scale change in players during the summer coming, and if the club is in some financial problems it would have been nice to know before renewing the season ticket
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Post by penza on Jul 22, 2009 23:22:42 GMT 1
If the rumours about Grant Holt being sold are true it is a total disgrace by the club. No amount of money is enough as he is on a 3 year contract and would still be worth the same amount of money at the end of next season. If he has been sold, I hope the club will offer refunds to those who have purchased season tickets because I shall be at the front of the queue...... My guess is that you will be first in the que to buy your season ticket back when the Holt tranfer money has been spent and people are getting exited again... Every player has his price and that price has obviously been met. Simmo has said we dont 'need' to sell for finacial reasons but at the end of the day when a big offer comes in for a player you have to ask weather we will be better off as a club with the money, or with Grant Holt, It seems in this case the money is more valuble. If Holty goes which by all acouts he will, we need to look forward and move on. He can be replaced, mybe not by a similar player but maybe this gives us chance to reshape the team. The way some people have reacted is as if the club in about to go into liquidation.. We should count ourselves lucky, we could be Chester fans!
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Post by eggman on Jul 22, 2009 23:25:08 GMT 1
Well I'm sorry but IF the rumours are true it is scandalous. It's not as if Holty is coming to the end of his career and we have to grab the money quick. We can get the required fee for him just as easily at the end of next season when he will still have 1 year left on his contract. Selling him now equates to selling any chance we have of promotion. IF it is true, it shows a total lack of ambition by the board. i disagree, anything can happen in a season, he may break a leg in october.. He will also be a year older and a little bit closer to the end of his contract, so more leverage can be applied on the price, as there is some urgency to sell him before his contract out. you dont support grant holt, you support shrewsbury town and IF he goes, the manager will replace him with someone he feels is as good. the club would be stupid to sell him for less than they could replace him for so i imagine it is a good price as we are an unmotivated seller.
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Post by Mr T on Jul 22, 2009 23:28:03 GMT 1
Agree with you Penza, people need to remember that we're in the 4th division in reality. How many players in recent years have left 4th division clubs for around £500,000???
And unlike Hart, it's not like Holt is going to go on to play for England and be around for the next 10 years minimum
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Post by shrew4life on Jul 22, 2009 23:28:19 GMT 1
Well I'm sorry but IF the rumours are true it is scandalous. It's not as if Holty is coming to the end of his career and we have to grab the money quick. We can get the required fee for him just as easily at the end of next season when he will still have 1 year left on his contract. Selling him now equates to selling any chance we have of promotion. IF it is true, it shows a total lack of ambition by the board. Agree. We've released our best right back, and lost the other one, cocked up over contracts so have lost Davies and now have decided to let go our best player at the club. Poor STFC and thats with out adding in the other crap of clipart and the rest!
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Post by damocles on Jul 22, 2009 23:28:33 GMT 1
[/quote] IF he goes, the manager will replace him with someone he feels is as good.[/quote]
Like he replaced Ben Davies with Lewis Neal? Who's he going to get in to replace Holt then, Marc Richards?
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Post by venceremos on Jul 22, 2009 23:29:57 GMT 1
I didn't buy my season ticket to watch Grant Holt. I'm prepared to see what happens next rather than throw a tantrum.
Every player leaves sooner or later and they're all replaceable.
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 22, 2009 23:30:48 GMT 1
At this moment we own the top scorer in league 2 - that type of commodity cannot be replaced - IF it is true, then selling him shows a total lack of ambition......... if Holty goes the club MUST, as a matter of principle, offer a refund to those who have purchased season tickets for the coming season.
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Post by shrewblue on Jul 22, 2009 23:30:57 GMT 1
I hear what you are saying Penza but peoples fear revolves around how money has been used in the past and concern about its use in the future and our so called backbone to the side of Coughlan/Jackson(both injured) Davies sold and potentially Holt sold with 17 days until the start of the season leaves people pretty shell shocked...yes we are lucky compared to Wrexham and Chester but the enthusiasm and optomism at the beginning of last season has all but evaporated.........but ever hopeful maybe Simpson and the chairman and board can find a silver lining but many I talk too are very very concerned!
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Post by venceremos on Jul 22, 2009 23:31:52 GMT 1
IF he goes, the manager will replace him with someone he feels is as good.[/quote] Like he replaced Ben Davies with Lewis Neal? Who's he going to get in to replace Holt then, Marc Richards?[/quote] Woah, top marks Damocles. Thought the Dunfield write off had set a record time but Lewis Neal written off halfway through the pre-season friendlies? Outstanding.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 22, 2009 23:36:39 GMT 1
At this moment we own the top scorer in league 2 - that type of commodity cannot be replaced - IF it is true, then selling him shows a total lack of ambition......... if Holty goes the club MUST, as a matter of principle, offer a refund to those who have purchased season tickets for the coming season. Well I guess there'll be a new top scorer in League 2, just like in most seasons. Why does it show a total lack of ambition? You don't know how the money will be used. If any season ticket holder would take a refund (which of course the club should not and will not offer) then they shouldn't have bought one in the first place. Are you saying that you, "as a matter of principle", will now stop supporting the club?
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Post by penza on Jul 22, 2009 23:37:35 GMT 1
I hear what you are saying Penza but peoples fear revolves around how money has been used in the past and concern about its use in the future and our so called backbone to the side of Coughlan/Jackson(both injured) Davies sold and potentially Holt sold with 17 days until the start of the season leaves people pretty shell shocked...yes we are lucky compared to Wrexham and Chester but the enthusiasm and optomism at the beginning of last season has all but evaporated.........but ever hopeful maybe Simpson and the chairman and board can find a silver lining but many I talk too are very very concerned! I can understand that people are dissapointed that he has gone, but we will have a lot of money to spend, he is replaceable like any other player at this level, lets just hope Simmo does a good job at doing so, because Holt is out best player. With say 500k we could by 3 or 4 top class player for this level.. Thats why im not worried yet. If come 8th August the situation has not been resolved, then i will be very worried indeed!
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jul 22, 2009 23:40:14 GMT 1
I reckon Simpson won't even see half of the transfer fee.
Roland seems to be back to his old ways of penny pinching!
Good times are back!
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jul 22, 2009 23:40:23 GMT 1
No t anme i have heard that is join us but i think we should make a bid for le fondre.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jul 22, 2009 23:41:00 GMT 1
I hear what you are saying Penza but peoples fear revolves around how money has been used in the past and concern about its use in the future and our so called backbone to the side of Coughlan/Jackson(both injured) Davies sold and potentially Holt sold with 17 days until the start of the season leaves people pretty shell shocked...yes we are lucky compared to Wrexham and Chester but the enthusiasm and optomism at the beginning of last season has all but evaporated.........but ever hopeful maybe Simpson and the chairman and board can find a silver lining but many I talk too are very very concerned! I can understand that people are dissapointed that he has gone, but we will have a lot of money to spend, he is replaceable like any other player at this level, lets just hope Simmo does a good job at doing so, because Holt is out best player. With say 500k we could by 3 or 4 top class player for this level.. Thats why im not worried yet. If come 8th August the situation has not been resolved, then i will be very worried indeed! IF Simpson gets the money then fair enough, however I doubt the board (inc Bickerton) will allow that.
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 22, 2009 23:41:11 GMT 1
People bought their season tickets believing that as he is on a 3 year contract Grant Holt would be at the club, thus giving us a realistic chance of promotion. If you paid for a Rolls Royce and were delivered a Ford Escort you would quite rightly expect a refund. We have paid for a commodity that has now diminished in quality and we should be offered our money back.
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Post by skinner on Jul 22, 2009 23:41:39 GMT 1
[/quote
Like he replaced Ben Davies with Lewis Neal? Who's he going to get in to replace Holt then, Marc Richards?[/quote]
I don't remember Ben Davies being a left winger.Surely Craig Disley is Ben Davies replacement?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jul 22, 2009 23:42:31 GMT 1
People bought their season tickets believing that as he is on a 3 year contract Grant Holt would be at the club, thus giving us a realistic chance of promotion. If you paid for a Rolls Royce and were delivered a Ford Escort you would quite rightly expect a refund. We have paid for a commodity that has now diminished in quality and we should be offered our money back. Agreed.
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Post by damocles on Jul 22, 2009 23:44:35 GMT 1
[/quote Like he replaced Ben Davies with Lewis Neal? Who's he going to get in to replace Holt then, Marc Richards? I don't remember Ben Davies being a left winger.Surely Craig Disley is Ben Davies replacement?[/quote] Sorry... like he replaced Ben Davies with Craig Disley?
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Post by venceremos on Jul 22, 2009 23:49:33 GMT 1
People bought their season tickets believing that as he is on a 3 year contract Grant Holt would be at the club, thus giving us a realistic chance of promotion. If you paid for a Rolls Royce and were delivered a Ford Escort you would quite rightly expect a refund. We have paid for a commodity that has now diminished in quality and we should be offered our money back. First, you bought a Shrewsbury Town season ticket, not a ticket for a one man show. Second, you don't yet know whether the quality of the "commodity" has diminished, because the season hasn't started. Third, does any club offer a guarantee of quality anyway? Are Man Utd fans getting refunds now Ronaldo and Tevez have gone, or Arsenal without Adebayor, or Villa without Barry?
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Post by eggman on Jul 22, 2009 23:51:32 GMT 1
People bought their season tickets believing that as he is on a 3 year contract Grant Holt would be at the club, thus giving us a realistic chance of promotion. If you paid for a Rolls Royce and were delivered a Ford Escort you would quite rightly expect a refund. We have paid for a commodity that has now diminished in quality and we should be offered our money back. rolls royce? are you joking? a rolls roys that didnt manage promotion? you need to calm down a little, and wait and see what happens. one player leaving does not ruin a club or a team. over the years i have seen some excellent players leave, we will survive and all of this excitement and rash statements will be forgotten. trust me.
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Post by harkinsshadow on Jul 22, 2009 23:53:04 GMT 1
On tonight's evidence the team will struggle to match Holt's 20 goals from last season between them. The club must offer a refund to those who purchased in good faith........
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Post by mattmw on Jul 22, 2009 23:58:25 GMT 1
When we lose to Burton on the opening day I plan to dramatically rush to the front of the stand and throw my season ticket at Simpson and the board claiming I'll never return.....
I'll then sheepishly go round to the club on the monday and ask for my ticket back....
and great Simpson and the board as heros in May for helping us secure promotion...
My season ticket purchase buys me the right to moan, slag off the team, fly into panic at every down turn and act in a totally hypocritical manner for the course of the season. Let people moan if they want to folks - optimisim is the curse of the lower leagues! If I wanted to enjoy supporting a football club I wouldn't be supporting town.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 23, 2009 0:01:14 GMT 1
When we lose to Burton on the opening day I plan to dramatically rush to the front of the stand and throw my season ticket at Simpson and the board claiming I'll never return..... I'll then sheepishly go round to the club on the monday and ask for my ticket back.... and great Simpson and the board as heros in May for helping us secure promotion... My season ticket purchase buys me the right to moan, slag off the team, fly into panic at every down turn and act in a totally hypocritical manner for the course of the season. Let people moan if they want to folks - optimisim is the curse of the lower leagues! If I wanted to enjoy supporting a football club I wouldn't be supporting town. As long as you can still laugh about it ...
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jul 23, 2009 6:56:07 GMT 1
The club must offer a refund to those who purchased in good faith........ Fair play that made me laugh out loud mate.... Do you do stand up in the local area ?
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